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SJMG 6 hours ago

Oh? What are the American model censorship tells?

zawaideh 6 hours ago | parent [-]

Genocide in Gaza...

cogman10 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I find that ChatGPT isn't censoring, but it is being pretty weaselly. If you ask it "is there genocide in gaza". It will say no but also say that a lot of organizations classify it as such. It will then say "it's highly disputed".

If you poke it just a few times, however, you get to the point where it will eventually say (paraphrasing) that basically only Israel, the US state department, and the ICJ say it's not a genocide.

That is to say that it's framing it as some sort of tricky complex question when it's not. And when interrogated, it basically admits that the only people who dispute it are Israel and it's supporters.

throw59525773 5 hours ago | parent [-]

One side of a conflict being a minority does not make it less nuanced.

The majority of the world is religious - doesn’t mean the debate on religion isn’t a complex question.

The majority of the world approved of slavery historically.

The majority of countries have ethnically cleansed their Jews, many of them in living memory.

When interrogated you will find that the only ones asserting the war in Gaza is a genocide are people who were anti-Israel anyway.

cogman10 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Are you a part of the $1B Israel is spending to try and propagandize and rehabilitate their reputation? [1]

I'm always suspicious that's the case given how mentions of gaza seem to bring out brand new accounts who only talk about Israel.

[1] https://quincyinst.org/research/the-eighth-front-inside-isra...

throw59525773 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Classic “foreign agent” ad hominem.

We are on a thread discussing Chinese models. Every discussion on here that’s negative about China or its models suddenly gets derailed via whataboutism to Israel/Gaza. A very convenient distraction.

cogman10 4 hours ago | parent [-]

My history, unlike yours, is wide open. People can see I'm not a foreign agent. I don't throw this accusation at anyone other than throwaway accounts. I've had conversations in the past with pro-Israel HNs that I'd never accuse of being a foreign agent because their history is wide open and this isn't the only topic on their mind.

And yes, we were discussing censorship of models which, as I pointed out, doesn't seem like ChatGPT is directly censoring data though it does appear to be manipulating it. Pretty on topic.

It was you, brand new account hiding your past opinions, who came in here to make this solely about Israel.

Yeah, I think you are likely a foreign agent. Prove me wrong and post from an established account.

tarasn an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

BS

shalom1112 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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