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markasoftware a day ago

Have you completed the identity verification? It's much more lenient once you have

embedding-shape a day ago | parent | next [-]

Oh yeah, back in the GPT3.5 days I think, that's probably it. Thanks for sharing your hunch :)

flexagoon a day ago | parent | prev [-]

Weird, I'm using 5.6 Sol through Chinese resellers and it reverse engineers stuff just fine

genxy a day ago | parent | next [-]

Because they have gone through identify verification, they are more likely to have done that to increase reputation score.

johntarter a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

That's hilarious that Anthropic and OpenAI can't even secure their products from Chinese resellers, how are they supposed to secure their models from being distilled?

econ 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Same way you prevent them from crawling your public website?

vablings a day ago | parent | prev [-]

They can't, that's the entire market for resellers all the data collected is used for distillation

dotancohen a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Do you have any suggestions for resellers? My Gmail username is the same as my HN username if you're not comfortable posting that here.

Thanks.

flexagoon 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I used Byesu and now use a6api. Byesu is a bit more expensive, but a6api is a marketplace so has a higher risk of fake models.

markasoftware a day ago | parent | prev [-]

Here's a big list: https://vectoral.com/blog/token-relay-market

dotancohen a day ago | parent [-]

Thank you

ngl999 a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Probably not real 5.6 Sol

flexagoon a day ago | parent [-]

How so? The code and reasoning patterns certainly match, so does the intelligence level. I probably wouldn't know if they're secretly serving Luna instead of Sol, but it's definitely an OpenAI model.

OkGoDoIt a day ago | parent | prev [-]

I think I’m missing something, what do you mean Chinese resellers? As I understand it, it’s difficult to even access OpenAI in China, how could they be reselling it? Do you mean something like openrouter but a Chinese version or something?

markasoftware a day ago | parent | next [-]

They usually resell codex subscriptions as api so it's cheaper than the official api

Scoundreller a day ago | parent | prev [-]

Proxies/vpns to enter/exit comms through non-banned countries.