Remix.run Logo
skeptic_ai 4 hours ago

For the big safety guys to only investigate this either means are incompetent or malevolent. Which one?

Tip: the people working there are the top 0.001% smartest in the world

gck1 4 hours ago | parent [-]

They had a model escape in April, roughly the same time when they were fearmongering about Mythos and how Anthropic should be the sole keyholder of cybersecurity capabilities, and it only occured to them to look inside logs when they saw someone else winning in their own game.

What, Anthropic didn't know model could escape sandbox without OpenAI reporting it?

skeptic_ai 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Yeah, the company that only says “safety” every other 3 words, they don’t even think to have a fake decoy internet to alert them mechanically about any internet access limitation bypasses? See more https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49117555

Also simonw stance on this i’d say it’s at least concerning… seems like he is here to keep a good image (or better said less bad) of anthropic.

gck1 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

You seem to be putting a lot of weight on Anthropic employees being the smartest people in the world.

And I don't doubt that, not in the slightest. But I've seen exceptionally smart people in one field being dumber than a random kid from around the block in another.

This incident is clearly at least 2 failures that could've been easily avoided: failure to communicate, and failure to investigate the logs after letting the "most dangerous" roam free.

No, it doesn't require creating a mock internet with an alert as a side effect. Their own "most dangerous" model could have probably told them this happened if they supplied logs to it.

simonw 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

"This is deeply embarrassing for Anthropic" - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49117128

If I'm here to give them a good image I'm not doing very well at that.

skeptic_ai 4 hours ago | parent [-]

That’s why I said “less bad “. Between fabricating something to be “our model also is genius and escaped” VS “deeply embarrassing” I’d say fabricating is worse. Both are bad