| ▲ | noname123 an hour ago | |
QQ for all the pro players out there, for 6 or 9-ring poker, can solvers really solve every scenario - or there is simply too many permutations. The other question I have is how do human players adapt to GTO play now? Like in other games, humans have adapted to novel strategies - I'm curious for poker whether there's ways to exploit GTO solvers (ie, if you put your opponent bot on the GTO range and chase the fat tails). And is the poker community's fair play detection algorithm good enough to catch players who use solvers like chess community - or it's easy to evade by making a few deviations. Much thanks! | ||
| ▲ | ryanto 36 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | |
- for 6 and 9 handed, yes they can solve any 2 player scenario you give it. you solve to some expected loss (like 1%), so it's not a perfect solve. you can solve lower, but it takes longer. in theory there are multiway hands that are unsolvable. - human players adapt to GTO by leaving the game. you are not beating a solver. solvers by their very design are unexploitable. - sites can catch players that use solvers if they care to. in my experience there are sites that care and others that dont, depends on the market. regs know who is cheating. | ||
| ▲ | fierycatnet 26 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | |
Not a pro player but I do well enough recreationally in local clubs when I play. GTO in my experience is really not a threat. Most players dont play GTO and against bad players GTO is not a factor. I've played with solvers before but I see no value for my current stakes. Nor do I feel that GTO is important. Perhaps in computer simulations but... its all theoretical and just fun and games. You'd need to play HU against Phil Galfond if you want GTO to be useful but how many players will be challenged like that? | ||