| ▲ | bbg2401 4 hours ago |
| Oh, is ASD-STE100 this week’s mindless productivity/AI-bro trend? Ads-STE100: Simplified Technical English - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49101215 ASD-STE100 Simplified Technical English for LLMs - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49065956 ASD-STE100 Simplified Technical English [pdf] - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49075687 Show HN: Claude Skill for ASD-STE100 – Simplified English - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49108318 |
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| ▲ | xlii 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| New models (especially Opus 5, released just last week) produces unintelligible output, so people are trying to fix it. |
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| ▲ | gck1 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Recent-ish models learned to use the same trick engineers played on non-engineers, where they try to sound very smart by overcomplicating very simple concepts. It's very taxing, especially since these are usually multi-paragraph texts. I noticed I've started doing a lot of "hey, you're talking gibberish again" a lot with 5.6 Sol. |
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| ▲ | brap an hour ago | parent [-] | | I tried letting Fable have a few passes at my docs (ultracode) and the output was basically unreadable. Nothing a human would ever write. I wonder if limiting them to a certain style like STE upfront would make them perform better/worse vs. applying the style after they’re done. | | |
| ▲ | nimonian 39 minutes ago | parent [-] | | Both. Command the author to use the style, then command a reviewer to check it. Write one skill called review-prose with your rules, and another called write prose which tells the author they will be judged by review-prose, so you only write the rules once. What I have found is that getting a model to rewrite a badly written passage is hard, because it seems to key off what it reads. It might swap some vocabulary around ok, but it doesn't fix structures very well. So getting it close to the preferred style in the first place is better. To take this further, if you must fix existing bad prose, write a clean-prose skill which extracts the bare structure of the prose with none of the style, hands it to an author subagent who isn't poisoned with the original bad prose, then hands the output to a reviewer subagent. Opus 5 writing is horrendous, so I have been experimenting with improving the output! |
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| ▲ | UqWBcuFx6NV4r 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| What’s it like to be this abrasive about people simply doing things? |
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| ▲ | bbg2401 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | It would be nice if people were indeed doing things. However, asking Claude to write a skill encoding ASD-STE100 after seeing it pop-up in your social feed is not doing much at all. It's certainly not worth a post on HN. Having said that, this skill might have been the seed for the flurry of low-effort posts on the subject on various platforms this week. If that's the case, I take back the majority of my scorn. You'll have to excuse me for becoming jaded by the diminishing levels of visible effort put into projects and products shared on here. | | |
| ▲ | mastodon_acc 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Not everyone spends their time browsing hackernews or other forums all day. This is the first time I’m hearing about this, I think it’s nifty, and it’s precisely why I come to hackernews at least once a day. Also what is wrong with using Claude to make a more polished post about something that’s being talked about already? | | |
| ▲ | wonnage an hour ago | parent [-] | | This is actually completely useless slop and any illusion of usefulness is misguided | | |
| ▲ | mastodon_acc 38 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | Based on what? I wouldn’t have learned about ASD-STE100 if I hadn’t stumbled upon this post. I’m not even going to use the linked GitHub project, just mentioning ASD-STE100 spec in certain prompts makes them useful. | |
| ▲ | 05980380443 29 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | Since your claim that adhering to a proven style guide is useless slop is not itself useless slop, I am looking forward to your empirical evidence or formal proof that there is no benefit to using it. |
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| ▲ | tonyarkles 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| You didn’t link to it but I looked back at my very few submissions and realized that I had posted it in 2019. I thought it sounded familiar! |
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| ▲ | toomuchtodo 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Potentially related to https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49068179 |