I had honestly forgotten about reason #1 as I haven't heard anyone mentioning the service when leaving a tip in decades. IMO that's dying boomer behavior. Everyone understands that tipped workers are universally underpaid, and either tip generously in solidarity (if they are normal or vaguely left wing/liberal) or tip the minimum they can get away with socially or legally (if they misanthropes or right wingers). The tip isn't an optional part of the bill -- withholding it is deliberately underpaying vulnerable workers who probably have little control over their conditions of work (and therefore the level of service) anyway, so it doesn't even work as an incentive. If you don't like this, cook your own food.

When service work is strongly organized and represented we can start talking about changing tipping culture.

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darkwizard42 21 hours ago | parent | next [-]

What is the evidence that tipped workers are universally underpaid? Compared to who and against what benchmark? In the law passed by the city, the drivers are now very well compensated -- and guaranteed that compensation (something I believe is important).

	▲	ElevenLathe 14 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Would you quit your job in order to be a gig delivery driver? If not, why not?

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jubilee33 a day ago | parent | prev [-]

I don't tip at all, ever. What are my politics? I'm genuinely curious.

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ElevenLathe 20 hours ago | parent [-]

Per the formulation in my post, that puts you in the misanthrope/right winger category, but presumably you are asking because in this case you don't feel that's right as some kind of gotcha.

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spopejoy 14 hours ago | parent [-]

If you're not from the US maybe not tipping is understandable.

If you are from the US and you don't ever tip, you're an insufferable jerk, on the left or the right.

	▲	seanmcdirmid 14 hours ago \| parent [-]
		You could also out avoid situations that require tipping. Like using the grocery store salad bar doesn’t require tipping, so eat lunch there rather than going to a local restaurant. I avoid fast food places that require tips also, it just seems weird to me. You can choose where to spend your money, it’s not misanthropic to just opt out.