> a certain maker of a popular mobile OS was collecting the cell tower IDs and WiFi access point identifiers along with GPS coordinates of a device. Obviously they collect this information to be able to guide missiles and drones when GPS signal is jammed

Is this sarcasm? GPS can take several minutes to get a location, and works poorly indoors. One of the reasons why Google Maps is so quick and precise is because Google has gathered exactly this data through users and Street View drive-bys.

Could it be used for missiles? Sure. Is it obviously the intention? No.

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meatmanek 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Yeah this is extremely standard:

Apple: https://support.apple.com/en-us/102515

> If Location Services is on, your device will periodically send the geo-tagged locations of nearby Wi-Fi hotspots and cell towers to Apple to augment Apple's crowd-sourced database of Wi-Fi hotspot and cell tower locations.

Google: https://support.google.com/android/answer/15157297?sjid=1648...

> When Location Accuracy is on, Google periodically collects information about the locations of wireless signals and sensors observed by your device to crowdsource location estimates. This helps everyone find locations better.

Mozilla used to run a very similar service: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Location_Service

Not to mention truly crowd-sourced databases like wigle.net.

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codedokode 3 hours ago | parent [-]

They should ask the permission from device owner and local government before collecting the data.

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aeturnum 2 hours ago | parent [-]

They do ask the device owner - if you review the location services description on android[1] you will see they explicitly say they collect this information from your device. I strongly disagree that they need to get government permission for this - they are simply recording signals that reach the device, akin to making notes about what kinds of cars you see. This is not a thing a government should have control over people doing and not a thing that should be registered with the governement.

[1] https://support.google.com/android/answer/3467281?sjid=66634...

	▲	codedokode 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		In the article you refer to, I see no mention of asking user's permission. However, I remember, when using an old version of Android, there indeed was a popup nagging me to allow sharing location data with Google every time I enabled GPS. Very annoying, makes you want to never enable GPS in the first place. Regarding the government, the problem is that many people do not fully understand the mechanism of collecting the data. I remember the case when members of US military disclosed the location of secret objects through fitness tracker app. And they were probably smarter than average smartphone user. Obviously it would be better if enabling GPS required an approval from their commander.

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codedokode 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Should Google ask permission from the device owner, and from the local government before collecting the data? I heard a certain foreign mobile app was banned in US for doing less than that.