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thelastgallon 4 hours ago

Aren't sodium batteries close to production and a lot cheaper and safer?

Ambri was working on large scale batteries which seemed like a pretty good idea (looks like they ran out of money): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ambri_Inc.

GlibMonkeyDeath 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Depends on the application - each battery technology has a trade-off between energy density, cost, lifetime, safety, scalability, etc. Sodium may have a place in grid storage, although iron-air is being deployed today and is even cheaper and safer (but poor energy density, which doesn't matter much for grid storage - https://formenergy.com/technology/battery-technology/)

margalabargala 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Cheaper yes. Non-aqueous sodium ion batteries (which are most of them) are more dangerous than LiFePO4 though.

vitaminCPP 4 hours ago | parent [-]

In what way, if you don't mind me asking?

margalabargala 3 hours ago | parent [-]

In the way that they are more likely to catch fire or explode or undergo thermal runaway.

https://advanced.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/aenm.20...

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S20954...