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inigyou 11 hours ago

What should they do about it?

owbt 11 hours ago | parent [-]

Who? The lawmakers? I believe banning children up to a certain age from having Internet-enabled mobile devices is a good starting point, and both child protection services and law enforcement services should fully cooperate with parents in enforcing that ban. If you see a kid smoking a cigarette or taking drugs, you know parents have failed somewhere along the road and it would be preferable if the government could step in to help.

inigyou 10 hours ago | parent | next [-]

This is a reasonable perspective, but don't you think the internet has the potential to do good as well as evil? I remember seeing some interactive lever applet as a kid where you could move the fulcrum. (Slightly) educational stuff. Shouldn't that be allowed?

cowboylowrez 10 hours ago | parent | next [-]

There are any number of alternatives, I favor a walled off whitelisted subset of the internet that requires age verification and then we can let kids on that and otherwise ban them from the general internet and also ban internet enabled devices in general. However, this costs and undoubtably wouldn't be perfect as there are people out there who want to chat up your kids, look at how much work a roblox style site needs to do against internet users who probably shouldn't be chatting up kids.

For those precocious kids who parents decide should be the exception because they are "good with computers" well I'm thinking some sort of waiver would be required that held the parents responsible then maybe let the kid hack on the internet but this is an unpopular view, the unpopular part being the "parents being responsible for their kids" bit.

But in general I think its a tough time to be legislating this stuff because "reasonable perspectives" are not what we are voting into office right now lol

ben_w 10 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Educational content was already a thing well before the internet got everywhere.

When I was in primary school, one of the things teachers had us do was debate the pros- and cons- of television. The pro side included educational content.

First Windows PC at any of my schools had Encarta.

Wikipedia can be downloaded in entirety and read offline, though it is so broad it may need a degree of filtering to become age-appropriate even for 16 year olds.

owbt 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I have a feeling that, currently, the cons outweigh the pros. Maybe if the digital landscape changes in the future, then we can reconsider those limitations. So far, the mobile Internet - the apps mainly - is a hostile environment for a young human, and I'd say they are pretty dangerous to the adults too.

ranger_danger 10 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

In many schools in the US now, kids are issued mandatory iPads from age 5 and are required to use them to complete school assignments.

1718627440 9 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Which sounds like a government mandated child harm measure to me.

inigyou 7 hours ago | parent [-]

Most of the US education system is.

owbt 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

That is extremely upsetting.

ranger_danger 8 hours ago | parent [-]

Wait until you hear about the pepper-spraying drones being put into service in schools.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49091153

sevenzero 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This is reasonable up to the point of lawmakers suddenly deeming rainbow flags just as bad as drugs (Russia as an example). Your example may work in well intended countries but completely ignores that a country can VERY easily shift into a regime that does not have good ethics abusing these kinda laws.

inigyou 10 hours ago | parent [-]

Not having an internet censorship law never stopped a country from making rainbow flags illegal.

polipputter 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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