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inigyou 11 hours ago

Yeah. And if a kid drinks beer only the parents should be liable.

Why are we all so horny to transfer unlimited liability to parents?

danparsonson 11 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Because raising children is unequivocally the parents' responsibility. It's, like, their main job.

inigyou 11 hours ago | parent | next [-]

But we don't put barbed wire on random sidewalks and then blame parents if a kid walks over it and gets hurt. There is the attractive nuisance doctrine, among other things.

account42 10 hours ago | parent [-]

We don't leave the barbed wire on the side walk but require everyone that wants to walk on it to age verify first either. And the attractive nuisance doctrine some states have is absolutely bonkers.

jodrellblank 8 hours ago | parent [-]

Yes we do leave pubs on the sidewalk and require everyone that wants to drink there to age verify first, what are you talking about

pbhjpbhj 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Viewing the continuance of our race as only the responsibility of parents is pathological.

Moreover, children are all of our [mid-term] futures too. If education fails, there are no doctors for anyone not ultra-wealthy.

You have to look from the other direction too - children have natural rights and deserve to be extending dignity as humans too.

krapp 10 hours ago | parent [-]

>Viewing the continuance of our race as only the responsibility of parents is pathological.

That seems to be a uniquely American pathology.

Everywhere where else in the world, and in non-white American subcultures, the community taking a hand in raising children is expected. But many Americans seem to consider it socialist and an attack on Christian values.

See Hillary Clinton getting mocked for saying "it takes a village"[0] or BLM being accused of wanting to "destroy the nuclear family" by encouraging community based parenting[1].

[0]https://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/1996/news/9608/27/hillary.sp...

[1]https://medium.com/@emailnatesmith/the-blm-statement-on-fami...

sevenzero 11 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

You have a kid, you have responsibility for that kid. In Germany we have a term "Aufsichtspflicht" for this, which roughly translates to duty of supervision. Up to a certain age of the kid parents will be made responsible for damages your kid caused. One pretty funny example of that was a kid spending 1000s of Euros on a MMORPG because the MMO offered a payment option that allowed people to pay through their phone bill. Parents could've easily prevented any of that happening, but in that generation it was pretty common that kids were tech savvy while parents couldn't be bothered to learn about computers, which imo already is problematic.

Nowadays there are many many ways to supervise your children's online access. And yes, there are also many many ways for kids to work around that too, but ultimately if you buy your kid a device with internet access, you should try to supervise that. Parents need to care more about what their children are up to, instead of silencing them with a tablet for a moment of personal silence.

inigyou 11 hours ago | parent [-]

¿What are those ways?

sevenzero 11 hours ago | parent [-]

A small example would be to set the device into "kiosk mode" which many companies use for their employee devices too. Prevent app installs, check what pages ur kids visit with their browsers and whatnot. Just make sure to be open about it so you don't hurt your kids by violating their privacy and trust towards you. Hell we even got parents having their kids take air tags with them so the parents know where they are.

inigyou 10 hours ago | parent [-]

Or the device could be mandated to have a "child mode" with more specific restrictions designed for children.

polipputter 6 hours ago | parent [-]

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