| ▲ | Spare_account 4 hours ago |
| Is there any (non-pub) location in London that could satisfy the 60 minute requirement? |
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| ▲ | ben_w 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| Conveniently, I've put together an isochrone map generator: https://benwheatley.github.io/Isochrone/web/?region=london&c... The origin point selected here is roughly Mermaid House, on the north side between the Millennium Bridge and Blackfriars station. My route-finding here is more than a little naïve, instant acceleration to each road's speed limit, full-speed turns, no traffic, lights always with you, etc. but there is a place within 60 minutes of all locations, pre-selected in that URL. Google Maps gives quite broad time ranges if you say you're travelling at 02:00, so there to e.g. Langleybury House & Film Centre, just inside the M25 in Watford, is 45m to 65m. |
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| ▲ | leoedin 42 minutes ago | parent [-] | | > My route-finding here is more than a little naïve, instant acceleration to each road's speed limit, full-speed turns, no traffic, lights always with you, etc. but there is a place within 60 minutes of all locations, pre-selected in that URL. It's an interesting project, but that makes it completely worthless. Nobody's driving to central London anyway - journey times are measured by public transport. And even if they were driving, the journey times by car are completely dictated by traffic. The average weekday speed in central London is 7.1 mph. What question does this answer? Where can me and all my friends meet in our cars at 2am? |
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| ▲ | PaulRobinson 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Logically, no, as they all neighbour non-pub locations. There's a coffee shop or restaurant within a minute or two of each of the top 5, from memory. There used to be some UK celebs (David Baddiel, Clive Anderson, others...), who used to regularly eat in a restaurant near the Crown & Anchor after their weekly 5-a-side football games, which is why it stands out in my mind. |
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| ▲ | Spare_account 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | >Logically, no, as they all neighbour non-pub locations. I don't understand this response, so I am wondering if I phrased my question badly. The linked article established that there is no pub in London that can be reached within 60 minutes travel time by anyone starting from any home in any London borough. I was wondering if there is any other location, be it a coffee shop, a park or even just a point in the middle of a road somewhere, that can be reached within 60 minutes by anyone who lives anywhere in London. | | |
| ▲ | CamouflagedKiwi 14 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | I think pretty unlikely: there is enough pub density that it's unlikely that removing that requirement nets 10 minutes of saved journey time from all the furthest destinations. | |
| ▲ | PaulRobinson 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | OK, short version: no. And logically this makes sense, because you can see the pub problem as a subset of locations within all locations, and all of these pubs are clustered around an equidistant point at ~72 minutes from everywhere in London. If such a location existed, it would have to be within that cluster, but somehow an average of > 12 minutes travel to all those pubs in that grouping. An eye ball test on a map tells you that isn't possible. You might be asking "is there another location without pubs that is more equidistant", and mathematically that could yield a coffee shop, except in London it won't because the equidistant point for all of London and the equidistant pub basically are at the same point to within hundreds of yards, because of how public transport and public houses are distributed across all boroughs. |
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