This! Personally I feel overwhelmed by dialog boxes and other trash content that gets in the way of content I need to see to do my tasks.

I want to see somebody punished whenever something appears. I'd like to see the EU legislators who gave us these GDPR popups treated like war criminals and jailed if they leave the EU (e.g. they've cost us billions in productivity) I'd like to see harsh treatment for those discriminatory and accessibility-violating "click on the traffic lights" popups, that stupid anime girl who is on way too many open source web sites, etc.

And I think apps that show one of those nags should be kicked immediately out of the app store.

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done_lurking a day ago | parent | next [-]

> that stupid anime girl who is on way too many open source web sites

I assume you're referring to https://github.com/TecharoHQ/anubis. As I understand, this is a tool for blocking bot traffic and is sometimes used as DDOS protection. In my experience it's less obtrusive than Cloudflare, and it's open source and competes with Cloudflare's near monopoly on DDOS protection. I don't think we should be discouraging people from protecting their sites from unwanted traffic.

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PaulHoule a day ago | parent [-]

This is exhibit #1 for why the billionaires win every time.

Like the so-called cyber left can't imagine anything but don't let anyone except for Google run a webcrawler and subjecting users to the same harassment economy that Google brought us. The contempt for end users that has always been latent in the open source world but here it is plain sight.

Another world is not possible if all you can imagine is repeating the same patterns of corporate oppression that have made the web a wasteland. By your honor as a software developer you should fall on your sword rather than put up something like anubis.

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inigyou 21 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Actually, Cloudflare just banned Google's crawler from most sites that Cloudflare attacks.

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zbentley a day ago | parent | prev [-]

> By your honor as a software developer you should fall on your sword rather than put up something like anubis.

Okay, then my little indie-web, zero-commercialization FOSS website is going to go down due to endless residential proxies DDoSing it--either because it crashes or because I can't afford to host it any more. So I lose the ability to share information and you lose the ability to see it.

> Another world is not possible if all you can imagine is repeating the same patterns of corporate oppression that have made the web a wasteland

I'd love for there to be an option that lets people host good, independent websites such that they stay up and are cheap without users occasionally seeing a loading screen or getting captcha'd or whatever. But all the options there are in the "yell at regulators and push for systemic solutions over many years" camp, not the "how can I keep this site from crashing or burning out my bank account right now" camp.

I guess there's also a small minority that like ... host outside of the public HTTPS web or something, but their answer to "how do I make this accessible to nontechnical people" will similarly take years of tooling and education development.

So for now, yeah, I'll "subject users to the harrassment economy" (a 3 second Anubis loading screen) when they want to use my websites. My imagination isn't the limitation on doing anything else; my bank account, server NIC, and the pace of broad social change are.

	▲	inigyou 21 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Did that actually happen or do you just imagine it will?

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ceejayoz a day ago | parent | prev [-]

> I'd like to see the EU legislators who gave us these GDPR popups…

The tracking industry's endless abuses gave you those popups, and they're deliberately implemented to be as annoying as possible to make you say things like the above.

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PaulHoule a day ago | parent [-]

It could have been "respect DNT or go directly to jail, do not pass go, do not collect $200". Instead we got American-style legalistic consentualism.

My experience as a web developer since 1995 or so is I was able to push back on pop-ups, pop-overs and stuff like that as being user hostile. Than the GDPR breaks the dam, it normalizes the idea of interrupting the user over bullshit, it is not "annoying" anymore, now it is "required" or "socially positive" and now you visit some blog and there are three different popups asking for your email.

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ceejayoz a day ago | parent [-]

The GDPR required an action by those performing intrusive tracking. Popups was one possible action.

Less intrusive tracking is an option! Opt-in tracking is an option! Not tracking is an option! I don't track anything on my personal sites, and I push back on anything at work that'd make me add a banner as hard as I possibly can.

	▲	f17428d27584 a day ago \| parent [-]
		Yeah they could have just not tracked by default. They could have just respected DNT. I mean it’s right there already built into the browser. (And browsers could have set DNT by default). But of course no website is going to do that. I actually like the pop ups because they often show all the trackers used in a list of “our partners”. Many big websites have hundreds of these tracking companies listed as partners. It’s shocking. And a useful reminder of why web privacy matters and that if you don’t fight for it they will take everything they can just to squeeze out every last fraction of a penny from you and your data/privacy.