| ▲ | A.I. Companies Are Recruiting Electricians and Carpenters by the Thousands(nytimes.com) |
| 43 points by thm an hour ago | 18 comments |
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| ▲ | kristov 24 minutes ago | parent | next [-] |
| It's nice to hear tradespeople getting paid well with lots of work. I'm happy for them :-) |
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| ▲ | willis936 8 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | Yes, that's good. It also prices out a lot of other better uses for their labor. Projects I work on have seen prices soar. I don't consider building the things everyone hates because they promise concentration of wealth and an attack on labor at the expense of building literally anything else to be somehow a big W for labor because a few people get a slightly higher temporary paycheck. Ask the Wagyu cows how they feel about the hand they are dealt. | |
| ▲ | goodpoint 5 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | For the next 6 months until they get all replaced by robots |
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| ▲ | ragebol 8 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I would have thought this would be about electricians and carpenters with camera's on their heads to train AI. Apparently not yet. Imagine robots (humanoids or something more specialized) building datacenters... |
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| ▲ | xur17 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| https://archive.is/f1p75 |
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| ▲ | jermaustin1 35 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| There are a few Data Centers going up within a couple hours of me, it has pulled all of the trades people away from us. I've called around to every electrician I can find online, or been recommended by neighbors, they are all out of town for the foreseeable future. Same with HVAC and to a lesser extent plumbers. I've had to learn a lot of skills this summer trying to get some repairs done on my house, and I've had to pay some extreme "fuck off" prices for work that I couldn't do myself. My father-in-law is a construction manager for a large power company, and they've been expanding their footprint as well for these datacenters, and hiring like crazy to speed up their construction. He said it will be a few years before the independent trades people become more available. |
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| ▲ | cynicalsecurity an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Before you decide to change jobs - the demand in electricians is caused by a temporary massive construction boom of data centers. Maintaining an already built data center doesn't require much personnel. It's a clickbait article. |
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| ▲ | bluGill 36 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | If you get into any construction job you need to expect to move job sites regularly. If it is a single family house that might be as much as twice a day. If it is a large industrial site it might be every few years. However it is unusual to work at the same location for much longer. You are also subject to the economy more than most jobs. When things start going bad you are the first one cut. It can still be a good career overall, but it does have downsides and isn't for everyone. I'm not leaving my job even though I know how to do construction. | | |
| ▲ | FrustratedMonky 5 minutes ago | parent [-] | | If the demand is great enough, they can fly trades to site and put them up in a hotel, just like any consultant. |
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| ▲ | palmotea 40 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Yeah, it's exactly like that oil boom in North Dakota. There was a brief, massive increase in demand for construction labor to build oil rigs, and you had "man camps" an the like. Then once the rigs were built, the employment dropped massively because it takes a lot fewer guys to run an oil well than build one. | | |
| ▲ | SoftTalker 16 minutes ago | parent [-] | | Yeah I remember the excitement about oil field jobs... was it about 10 years ago already? |
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| ▲ | Aurornis 12 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | > Before you decide to change jobs Trades work is hard. Traveling to a far away job site every day and doing physical labor in a building that isn’t heated or cooled yet is the complete opposite of our comfortable office or remote tech jobs. If you’re dreaming about escaping meetings and annoying coworkers, imagine if most of the people you work around aren’t your coworkers at all. They’re other trades people from other companies who run the range of being understanding and kind to total DGAF about you or your job requirements because they know you being upset has no connection back to their job safety. This varies based on the site and who’s running it, but that also changes from month to month or day to day. I say this as someone who spent very little time in trades related work before graduating college and who has career electrician family members. Trades work is hard. If you work on computers in an office, we have it so very easy. |
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| ▲ | ReptileMan 15 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Before reading the article - because it is NYT - how do they spin it as a bad thing? |
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| ▲ | edot an hour ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Carpenters? Are we making the data centers out of wood? |
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| ▲ | bmcniel an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | Carpentry tends to span beyond direct woodworking. Installing Drywall over steel studs is one example that might apply to DC construction. >Carpentry is a skilled trade and a craft in which the primary work performed is the cutting, shaping and installation of building materials during the construction of buildings, ships, timber bridges, concrete formwork, etc. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carpentry | | |
| ▲ | SoftTalker 12 minutes ago | parent [-] | | I'm not sure carpenters do drywall, that's usually a specialized crew. But they might do the framing/assembly of the steel studs. And hanging doors, fitting the raised flooring, installing shelving/cabinets, etc. |
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| ▲ | ryanmcbride 42 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | There is frequently wood in buildings yes | | |
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