| ▲ | ck2 3 hours ago |
| I thought bird poop was the commonly accepted explanation 7000 years ago is the edge of recorded human civilization (well 8000 years, I remember this because it's also the edge of a gamma ray burst in light years that could destroy all life on earth after traveling all that time) |
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| ▲ | masklinn 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| > 7000 years ago is the edge of recorded human civilization
(well 8000 years The earliest pre-pottery Neolithic complexes are nearly 4000 years older than that. |
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| ▲ | ikidd 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Did they have writing and kept records that we've found? That's the "recorded" part. | | |
| ▲ | masklinn 44 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | If writing is your yardstick then 7000 years is way too far back. There was likely proto-writing back then (some of the figures at gobekli tepe are found in a very similar form in later scripts of the area[1], there are clearer forms of proto-writings from CA 6000~7000 BCE in various cultures) however writing proper is only currently known from 3000 BCE onwards. [1] https://www.researchgate.net/publication/330759548_World's_F... | | | |
| ▲ | 0points 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | In Norway, the oldest written records are barely 1000 years old. |
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| ▲ | sejje 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| It doesn't matter if it's recorded. This is inferred, not written down. Hunter-gatherers aren't known for their civilizations. |
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| ▲ | t-3 4 minutes ago | parent [-] | | Civilization refers to cities, not literature. Urban societies need writing and complex social rules to survive, but it's not as if those things can't or haven't arisen in other types of human societies. |
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