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cyanydeez 21 hours ago

there's no evidence for the countpoint; so it's mostly counterparanoia.

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voakbasda 18 hours ago | parent [-]

There is a ton of evidence that equipment out of China can come with built-in backdoors and worse.

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cyanydeez 18 hours ago | parent [-]

at best, theres evidence of the same guilty poorly built software and hardware because capitalism is king

king, youre angry at capitalism not some super uber foreign suveillance program.

its like being angry that someone entered your house cause you bought a cheap door and its lock broke.

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lazide 17 hours ago | parent [-]

I have it on good authority that the Soviets also made crap.

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cyanydeez 11 hours ago | parent [-]

yes, but we're talking about how the Chinese produce crap that's built cheaply, sold cheaply, ends up in American's hands and it's buggy and insecure; and instead of thinking, gee, perhaps capitalism isn't building the best products for my security they think "oh gee, the chinese have a whole apparatus of surveillance looking to get into my <insert todays problem>. Then someone exploits sed insecurity and the circle of paranoia is complete.

It's basically the digital version of chinese weather balloons. Lets just spend 250k shooting it down cause there's a 1% chance it's voodoo magic.

	▲	voakbasda 6 hours ago \| parent [-]
		You realize that a lot of these devices have been found to phone home to servers in the motherland, right? Without informing the user they were doing so? Or would be expected for the class and function of device? You wanna explain how that was just “buggy and insecure”?