> So clearly that isn't the answer.

Quite an assertion.

What Australia is doing works by one measure that matters: number of people killed by a gun. In 2024 the gun murder rates were:

US: 4.5 per 100,000

AU: 0.09 per 100,000

Ratio: 50

Source: https://www.ussc.edu.au/by-the-numbers-stark-contrast-in-aus...

Australia didn't confiscate vast numbers of guns by violence. It introduced a buyback scheme, which a lot of gun owners took up. The buyback was "an offer they couldn't refuse" for classes of firearms that were banned, but once it was done it meant it was more tractable to keep firearms in check. The big thing is did was reduce the number of households that contained a firearm even if some of the remaining (paranoid?) license holders increased their number of guns.

Source: https://www.sydney.edu.au/news-opinion/news/2021/04/28/new-g...

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rootusrootus an hour ago | parent [-]

> Quite an assertion.

You must have misunderstood the assertion, then. I will attempt to clarify.

- Australia tried to get rid of guns, still has millions. Several hundred thousand of them illegal.

- Australia has a much lower firearms homicide rate, despite still having quite a lot of guns. Not the same ratio as the US, sure, but 4.5M guns for 28M people is still fairly prevalent and available.

- So the rate 1:50 ratio is not easily explained by simply reducing the number of guns in circulation. Something else is going on. Something harder to solve, even, than the second amendment.

	▲	femto 30 minutes ago \| parent \| next [-]
		Okay. I should have interpreted it to mean "So clearly that isn't the full answer". I interpreted it to mean "So clearly that isn't part of the answer". I think reducing the "saturation" of guns is important, as it is a big driver of people's mindset, whereby they see a gun as an answer. By "saturation, I mean the number owned, their availability, their visibility, their promotion and so on. The US is a standout in ownership, in that it has almost twice as many civilian firearms per person than the next closest country [1]. I suspect the US is also a standout in the other areas: availability (Walmart, but less than before), visibility (open carry), promotion (NRA). [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estimated_number_of_civilian_g...
	▲	defrost 43 minutes ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		> Australia tried to get rid of guns, False. - Gun regulation was made considerably more uniform. Here is my actual IRL Australian neighbour legally shooting here in Australia: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7owwTz7Z0OE