Why not sell phones?

bluebarbet an hour ago | parent | next [-]

This is surely the closest to a solution we have, IMO. An alternative to the Android-iOS duopoly that involves futzing with cables and command lines is never going to go mainstream. By contrast, a vertically integrated FOSS(ish) hardware-software stack might eventually get to 5% market share, like desktop Linux. At which point companies and governments will be forced to take software freedom slightly more seriously. That's my optimistic take.

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gertop 38 minutes ago | parent [-]

> An alternative to the Android-iOS duopoly that involves futzing with cables and command lines is never going to go mainstream

All you need to install graphene is a web browser and USB cable.

> By contrast, a vertically integrated FOSS(ish) hardware-software stack might eventually get to 5% market share, like desktop Linux

Those exists. They've never gained traction. If you think graphene is too much tinkering, you'll be traumatised by that landscape.

	▲	bluebarbet 18 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		>All you need to install graphene is a web browser and USB cable. Outside a section of the Western middle class, ordinary people in 2026 only own one computer and it's in their pocket.

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pocksuppet an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

https://proxysto.re/en/ sells GrapheneOS phones, with worldwide shipping I believe. They do donate a portion of every sale to GrapheneOS. However, you're recommended to install GrapheneOS yourself and not buy it from someone else, so that you know it hasn't been tampered with.

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joecot 29 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Motorola will be releasing phones compatible with GrapheneOS, though it's unclear if they will ship with GrapheneOS.

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jitix an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

They could partner with Fairphone and each can bring their complementary competencies.

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mschild an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Because that would require a massive network and additional legal liabilities.

Partnering with Motorola seems to be the best bet.