| ▲ | mmaunder 3 hours ago | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
“Each of the results cost roughly $100,000 in API cost to develop.” And “Over the course of a week, one Anthropic researcher worked together with Claude to develop the HAWK attack, and another researcher built a scaffold4 that allowed Claude to fully autonomously discover the AES attack.” Spending $100k in tokens in a week is an impressive feat even with massive parallelization. I suspect the TPS their internal folks have access to is far higher than their bulk public endpoints. There’s a tech aristocracy rapidly emerging in our society and it’s going to tear us apart. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | kmoser 32 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Today's state-of-the-art AI systems are the equivalent of late 1970s personal computers: bulky and expensive, but wildly more powerful than what came before. And look what happened: tech improved by orders of magnitude, and eventually computers were tiny and cheap. I predict the same will happen with AI: certainly the latest and greatest will still command a steep price (yes, supercomputers are still a thing) but for most people who just need something reasonably fast and powerful, cheap (or free) AI will do the trick, especially when run locally. So no, the aristocracy won't have a lock on the technology because tech is always being democratized. Until arbitrary computation itself is outlawed (and yes, I know, governments and industry are always inching us closer to that), we'll be ok. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | jrflo 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
That's not really that ridiculous. Looking at my ChatGPT stats my biggest day of token usage was 1B tokens (seeing how far Sol Ultra could go on a difficult problem with a quantitative goal and eval harness that it could run on it's own that allowed it to keep going until it succeeded). I blew through my $100 subscription usage in that one day, but with a 80/20 token blend that's $10k in API billing. So, $70k in a week. With the higher cost of Mythos, that's not that crazy. It's more so a testament to how ridiculously marked up API tokens are, or how discounted subscriptions are (who knows which is true) | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | ecshafer 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
So $1-10k in Chinese model time, thus why we must ban them. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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