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Bender 2 hours ago

As far as I know the only thing that influences change is money. What methods could be implemented to take money away from governments that implement with such things? All of my ideas would be very low traction but there are clever people here on HN that I am sure could come up with a few better ideas.

One of my (probably dumb) ideas is:

- Create a legal presence in a country that does not require being dystopian, relaxed business laws, less regulation, lower taxes, move most of the corporate side of the business there. Take the tax revenue with you. It does not have to be all at once. Make the move a slow boil so they don't see it until it's too late.

Which countries, provinces, regions, states have the least regulation, least dystopian behavior and the least taxes? There has to be a incentive for business leaders and board members to move things around. Bonus if the saved money pays for a Gulfstream G650 ER or two.

tt24 11 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

> As far as I know the only thing that influences change is money.

You are incorrect. The NIMBY movement has been extraordinarily successful despite severe opposition from moneyed interests. Bloomberg lost embarrassingly despite setting records for campaign spending. There are countless similar examples.

AnthonyMouse 6 minutes ago | parent [-]

The NIMBY movement is moneyed interests. The owners of existing real estate zoned for high density don't want more of it because increased supply lowers prices. The people in an affluent suburb don't want affordable condos anywhere in their school district. This comes at the expense of the poor who then pay higher rents.

hnav an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

They control the last mile of the Internet so it would require satellite networking run by another country to cut them out like this.

kbelder 10 minutes ago | parent [-]

"I Remember Babylon" by Arthur C. Clarke.

Written in 1960, but very prescient.

Muromec an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Another thing that influences change reliably is a good old (threat of) violence.

Bender an hour ago | parent | next [-]

I would rather not incite violence on this platform. That just gets a bunch of people put in a cage limiting their career options and potentially "justifies" even greater dystopian actions.

forgetfreeman an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Who are we threatening today?