We cannot possibly expect all parents to take proper care of their kids. This has never been the case and never will. That's why we have schools and other institutions that oversee our growth within society.

You could make same exact argument regarding kids health, alcohol abuse, nicotine abuse, all types of addictions, age of consent, and so on.

You can't just have all the safeguards dropped because you think you're doing a good job. Or, even worse, you have no kids and it's your virtues merely projecting.

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AllegedAlec 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> We cannot possibly expect all parents to take proper care of their kids. This has never been the case and never will. That's why we have schools and other institutions that oversee our growth within society.

From both someone involved in raising kids as well as someone who knows a lot of teachers: none of the involved parties want that. Schools are at best for teaching, but never for raising.

	▲	spockz an hour ago \| parent \| next [-]
		I respectfully disagree. Yes, parents should raise their children as in be present in their lives and help them grow and shape themselves. However, schools with the rules, social engagements, and learning is also a form of raising. Teachers, especially in elementary school, are extremely influential for young kids. How teachers behave when somebody is bullied, how they handle questions, basically how they handle anything, forms the minds of young children. Is it the sole responsibility of a school to ensure well raised (for whichever specific definition of “well”) children? No. However, they are a large factor in the raising of children.
	▲	naravara 44 minutes ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		I feel like you must have a very restrictive definition of what constitutes “raising” kids if we’re omitting the place where they spend the majority of their waking hours and the people most of their social universe is based in. We’ve had a live experiment with this during COVID and it’s pretty clear that kids raised solely at home by their parents fared way worse. Not just on academic metrics, but basic conflict resolution or social skills.

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ndr 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It is a parenting issue.

Don't let kids have an internet-connected phone, the same way they can't have a bottle of wine.

If they really need such device make sure that device is locked to a small list of app/contacts possible.

There's no need to lock down the rest of the internet because the responsible person of such kid can't tolerate their complaints. It is a parenting issue.

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leonidasrup an hour ago | parent | next [-]

There is also the influence of the church.

I have seen religious parents been vocally opposed to their children seeing or even discussing anything related to sexuality.

An example from the past:

"The National Legion of Decency, also known as the Catholic Legion of Decency, was an American Catholic group founded in 1934 by the Archbishop of Cincinnati, John T. McNicholas, as an organization dedicated to identifying objectionable content in motion pictures on behalf of Catholic audiences."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legion_of_Decency

https://www.archbalt.org/catholicism-influenced-moviemaking-...

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hobom 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

You totally ignored the point OP was making! Even if it is a parenting issue, simply declaring that will not make parents parent better. It's the same reason why we ban children from drinking wine, because parents cannot be relied upon here.

Unless your point was that we should legally ban kids from handling phones, which I think is too extreme.

	▲	ndr an hour ago \| parent [-]
		But that is my point. Chase the responsible adult if you see a kid with an overpowered phone, much like you would if you found the same kid with a bottle of wine. And granted, we don't have locked-enough phone in market yet, but that's a solvable problem if we were to create that market.

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naravara 43 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

Just put your kids in a bubble so not a single adult is the slightest bit inconvenienced by having to exercise any social responsibility for their well being. Easy.

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seany 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

So they should be raised by the state just in case? I feel like Ive read this story somewhere...

	▲	kelseyfrog an hour ago \| parent [-]
		Parents should be imprisoned if they give children access to the internet. We have to make parents criminally liable. Without a change in incentives, we cannot expect behavior to change. Until then 'parents need to parent' is a slogan and not a solution.

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Balooga 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

"It takes a village to raise a child." Except these same parents who won't take care of their kids are also the very first who go all "How dare you speak to my child like that! I'm going to have you fired!"