| ▲ | flaviolivolsi 3 hours ago |
| "Both options are free of charge and free of judgement, especially the latter" You sure about that? Unfortunately there's a thing called "obiezione di coscienza" (TL;DR: doctors opposing abortion because they're catholics). Feel free to translate this article: https://www.editorialedomani.it/fatti/aborto-obiezione-cosci... |
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| ▲ | eur0pa 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| Finding an obiettore is a somewhat rare circumstance in a hospital, but it's unlikely in a consultorio familiare; those are structures whose only purpose is reproductive health, gynecological care, social services, and psychological consult, especially aimed at teens and women. If you're an objector you generally don't go out of your way to work there. |
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| ▲ | ron_k 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | I’m sure you’re aware that it _greatly_ depends on the region you’re living in. The fact that consultori are for reproductive health doesn’t mean that there are no obiettori: for some of them the purpose of those structures are exactly to prevent abortions. There are many accounts of women who were pushed to not interrupting a pregnancy. |
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| ▲ | kamma4434 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| An “obiettore” won’t be your doctor if you want an abortion; there will be somebody else performing it. |
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| ▲ | altern8 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| That's like 1 out of 1000 doctors, just go to another doctor. And even if that wasn't the case, what is the government supposed to do about that? |
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| ▲ | sllewely 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Read the article. It's 67% of registered obgyns and fully 100% of some hospitals. Why would you believe it's 1 of 1000 in a world where countries consistently successfully create legislature targeting women? | | |
| ▲ | altern8 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | Because I'm from Italy and I have women friends and I know that there are a lot of places where you can get a prescription for abortion pills. We don't need random websites to hand out prescription drugs to kids. | | |
| ▲ | kamma4434 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | In 2022 there were about 65k abortions in Italy, two thirds of which were with ru486. All of them completely legal and paid for by the national health care. Not sure there is a need for pills over mail. | | |
| ▲ | toomuchtodo an hour ago | parent [-] | | It's great Italy it has the protections it does, but as long as there are practitioners or institutions that might not respect obtaining this healthcare (out of religion, belief system, whatever, the reason is irrelevant), there should be robust systems to avoid those challenges for those seeking said healthcare. Pills available by mail on demand, automated vending machines, etc. As mentioned in the 1983 film "WarGames", "We ought to take the men out of the loop". |
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| ▲ | timpera 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | > In 2019, it was reported that 67% of Italian gynecologists were registered as conscientious objectors and multiple hospitals reported having a 100% conscientious objection rate. | |
| ▲ | OkayPhysicist 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | The same thing you'd do with a doctor with a penchant for harming their patients. Strip their license. |
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