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Una Watch: Garmin watch competitor but repairable, open ecosystem and USB-C(unawatch.com)
33 points by pimterry 3 hours ago | 20 comments
exabrial a few seconds ago | parent | next [-]

If it has a flashlight, I would maybe consider it.

Also, my Garmin Epix watch is practically bullet proof. I've dove with it. I've jet skied with it. I rock climb with it. It's surived 108miles of Unbound (the race) in mud, sun, sweat. I've water rafted with it. I've swam on the ocean with it.

Zero chance a iWatch would ever survive these conditions.

Oh and despite all of this, the screen has not scratched, not even a little. Plus it has 5-10 days of battery life... and did I mention I always have a flashlight on me?

lrae 8 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Some good points were already brought up in the comments (IP5X, USB C charging), but I have the feeling that it's also just not a good fitness tracker/smartwatch.

I see a single unboxing of the watch from three weeks ago on Youtube and zero reviews on YT or websites. Just posts based on their PR release that it's available now. (Though some clearly already shipped.)

Thus, it's unfortunately very likely that the product is also not good at its main purpose, tracking activities, workouts and health. If it would only even come somewhat close to the performance of all the competitor smartwatches/trackers, they'd be louder about that part.

pandemicsyn an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> "UNA is currently a non-submersible device due to its innovative modular design. So, swimming is not something we offer as an activity, nor do we advise it. UNA is IPX5 rated, which means it is splash & showerproof to a high degree."

If I had a dollar for every time some project that was ipx5 rated failed after getting caught in the rain one too many times...I'd have enough to buy another Garmin Fenix.

iancarroll 20 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I've wasted so much money on vendor charging cables in the past 10 years while traveling or moving that I would probably buy this just for the USB-C port, assuming it is actually splash proof.

I wonder what HR sensor they use. Samsung apparently has an average error of 7% which is pretty bad, so I wonder if this would be worse. [0]

[0] https://www.cnet.com/tech/mobile/i-ran-30-miles-testing-5-sm...

slibhb an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> Can I swim with UNA?

> UNA is currently a non-submersible device due to its innovative modular design. So, swimming is not something we offer as an activity, nor do we advise it. UNA is IPX5 rated, which means it is splash & showerproof to a high degree.

pockybum522 15 minutes ago | parent [-]

Damn. But hopefully they improve on that. I would absolutely be considering one if this wasn't the case

jerlam 23 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Any "open ecosystem" product needs to be a competitive product out of the box, otherwise it's just a development toy. Developers aren't going to enhance your product to fill in all the gaps unless there are customers, and preferably paying ones.

mikestew 38 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I really want to like this watch. Price is certainly right, and it does all of the things I'd want out of a Garmin or Apple Watch Ultra. But what problem does this solve for me? In the Apple Watch use case, a replaceable battery would be nice. But in contrast to Garmin, I've never replaced a Garmin because the battery wouldn't hold charge anymore. I've never broken a screen (if one has a habit of that, Garmin and Apple make watches with raised bezels). I just hold on to the Garmin for six or seven years, by which time it's so beat to hell that it's time for a new watch anyway. But I'm wondering if the subtle message isn't aimed at Apple and not Garmin.

USB-C charging would be awesome, instead of Garmin's proprietary plug and a cable that's made from spider silk. I'd prefer, though, wireless charging like Apple. Never once have I pulled an Apple Watch off a charger and said, "WTF? Why didn't it charge?" Garmin, OTOH...

I'm no triathlete, but the "no swimming" kinda puts a damper on my enthusiasm as well.

I wish them well, I love the idea even if I probably won't buy one.

weakfish 26 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

For me, I want an open API I can pull my data from. Last I checked, you have to be a business to use Garmin's API.

Apple certainly doesn't let you.

My goal is to have a cron that runs on my homelab that pulls my health data into a DB I own, from various sources, and visualize it in Grafana.

asats 18 minutes ago | parent [-]

you can use https://github.com/cyberjunky/python-garminconnect to pull your data from garmin, I've been using it daily with no issues

throwway120385 30 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

USB-C would suck. Part of the purpose of that proprietary plug is that it's very water resistant and very durable. Imagine getting mud or coarse sand in your USB plug and not being able to charge anymore.

pimlottc 22 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

They hardly even mention the software, but isn't that half the value of Garmin devices?

SketchySeaBeast an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I do like the idea of USB-C, the garmin's power plug is nothing but annoying. It's really just a matter of battery life and what sort of software integration it has. Although, it's hard to beat the Garmin ecosystem.

briffle an hour ago | parent [-]

I think battery life is the most important. My Garmin Instinct 2 goes about 3.5 weeks between charging (the older non-OLED screen). It has solar, so I usually go over a month.

But a watch, something people will wear swimming, sweaty, in the rain, etc, is something that should ideally follow the wireless charging standards, and not have a plug taking up space, and being a spot for leaks...

cuu508 36 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Specs don't make it clear if it supports BLE sensors (HR strap, power meter,... ).

jerlam 31 minutes ago | parent [-]

One of the tiles on the buy page says "HR BAND SUPPORT Connect compatible BLE chest straps". But one single connection type doesn't compare to Garmin's list of supported ANT and BLE accessories.

branon an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

And I just bought a Garmin Forerunner 55, too. I'm still within the return period, will have to consider this...

yread 17 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

2.5MB RAM, FreeRTOS!

hxbdbdb 43 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

USB-C really does not make sense for such a device. It's significantly too bulky and is hard to get water proof

SketchySeaBeast 15 minutes ago | parent [-]

Is it hard to get waterpoof, considering that every modern smart phone is both usb-c and waterproof? Important to note that this watch doesn't claim to be waterproof.