> could you please summarize in short what you meant here as keypoint?

> I'm not sure we are interpreting this right,based also on reactions and troll references in clear contrast to your other comment.

I'm not sure what's unclear about my first comment, but I'll try to rephrase with new words.

People are people and deserve to be treated humanely as such. Productivity is but one aspect of people, and not the only one you can ascribe any value to. People are more than their productivity.

Productivity is often just used to mean 'how much money you earn', but I find it useful to expand its meaning to 'how well you're doing what you're enjoying'. If you spend time reading books because you enjoy it, that's productive. If you spend time at work earning money, that's also productive, since money is needed to, ya know, stay alive, and thus let you enjoy life, for what it's worth.

My point about disabilities is probably better expanded by the article in question, unless you have any pointed questions at that.

> also the comment

> "I've considered suicide because I was unable to make ends meet. I don't want others to experience that. Is that too much to ask?"

> was important and extremely insightful, wanted to ask what you meant with "was unable to nake ends meet" which type of ends?

The instance I had in mind was one where I was in danger of not having food to eat at the end of a month. I wasn't in any danger for that matter. I can get free food locally if I'm desperate. I can call a friend and ask for a favour (and friends have asked me!). But getting to that point is well beyond the point where my mind goes 'oh ffs, just end it, it's not worth the bother'. If someone is at that point, they should get help, but ideally, they shouldn't get to that point in the first place. Prevention is better than a cure (although we should work on cures too!).

thanks a lot for the clarification and effort for it.

Maybe the other reactions made it generally more unclear, but was unsure about the core message.

This is much more clear and direct, and yes I was believing you meant something in that direction.

Regarding the other comment, thanks also, I understand that feeling the moment of having to ask something like that, but I think that if fought with enough pragmacity I think I would try to overcome the psychological part because the need would overcome the shame, and that would overcome the situation. or that is not feasible in that case?