AI will probably end up reducing lots of firms productivity because costs to defend against cyber attack is gonna skyrocket. Even for tech firms writing more code (the only thing AI is really good at so far) doesn't scale linearly with profits

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andy99 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Why would it obviously give attackers the upper hand? If we accept the premise that AI helps find vulns more efficiently, shouldn’t this be at least equally helpful in securing against attacks and make that increasingly efficient?

	▲	lunar_mycroft 4 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		It won't do that for free, companies (and open source maintainers) will have to pay for the tokens used finding vulnerabilities in their own software. That increases the cost of releasing the same product/feature/amount of code vs what it was before.
	▲	zemo 5 hours ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		everything you build potentially increases the surface area of attack. If the benefit of building it is zero or negative then all you've done is increase your risk profile.
	▲	pdhborges 5 hours ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		Maybe people believe that the process complexity is not symetric. I don't blame them. Building an house is more complex than destroying it.
	▲	throwaway27448 5 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		It's still an additional cost that doesn't drive revenue.

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trollbridge 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Particularly when you can't use Fable 5 to secure your software, you don't have access to Mythos 5, and you got your access to GLM-5.2 and other Chinese and/or open models capable of doing so taken away.

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TheOtherHobbes 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Good point. Within the next few years black hat open models will be able to do a lot of damage for very little cost.

It could easily turn into a Red Queen situation where companies that don't spend hard on security are going to face huge potential losses, and both sides will be scrambling constantly to get an advantage.