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an0malous 3 hours ago

The observer effect, depersonalization and derealization sound a lot like how many mystical traditions describe awakening of Self-realization

lanstin 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

There is no observer in realization. Dissociation is having your self be separated from reality. Safe from the trauma, but not whole. Mystic union is more like having seeing the boundaries between self and other as illusory, and fully experiencing.

taurath 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The deeper you get into dissociation, the more a LOT of mysterious or mystical human experiences start to make sense. The public generally doesn’t understand the mechanism or that our brains can do it, or how far it can go into structural dissociation.

moralestapia 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

The awakening of self-realization sounds a lot like how many modern scholars describe the observer effect, depersonalization and derealization.

devmor 2 hours ago | parent [-]

I think you all might be using the wrong terminology here. The Observer Effect is a part of quantum physics. I was shocked to learn there was a psychological phenomenon by the same name and went to read up on it, but there doesn't seem to be such a thing and I'm not really sure what you're referencing.

Is there another name you might know this by? Disassociation is the only thing I can find that sounds similar.

r1chard007 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Overview effect

devmor an hour ago | parent [-]

Thank you! I have heard of this before and did not know what it was called.

jibal 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

No one but you capitalized it. They are referring to what TFA describes ... it uses the phrase "observer sensation" rather than "observer effect", but it is an effect.

devmor an hour ago | parent [-]

I’m not sure what capitalization has to do with anything. You can answer my question without being a pedant.

jibal 2 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Pedant? I was simply trying to be helpful. My point was that "the Observer Effect", a specific thing in physics, is clearly not the same as the "observer sensation" that TFA refers to and that someone here casually referred to as an "observer effect".

Fortunately my HN front end has a mute function. Applied.

ButlerianJihad an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

No man can answer your question.

https://m.xkcd.com/1704/

This is a neologism to describe something that is "not in the DSM" and not concretely documented in a particular study. This alleged phenomenon and coinage is the emergent result of some analysis by this journalist, writing for a commercial news site that sells ads but does not launch any astronauts or spacecraft anywhere, much less interview or evaluate them once they've landed and arrived home.

Commenters who are comparing it to a selection in the DSM-IV, or "oh yeah, I felt like this once" anecdotes are projecting subjective experience onto subjective journalism about subjective testimony. Where is our scientific empiricism? Would you like some ketamine? Would you care to take less ketamine?

Therefore, "observer sensation" means just what the journalist chooses it to mean. Nothing more, and nothing less.