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m3h 6 hours ago

Someone who until yesterday did not seem bothered by his technology being possibly used to bomb elementary girls school in another country seems to suddenly care about the repression of citizens in yet another country.

No, we don't buy your virtue signaling. And we certainly don't need your better-than-thou opinions on this year's "nightmare scenarios".

monk_grilla 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> Someone who until yesterday did not seem bothered by his technology being possibly used to bomb elementary girls school in another country...

I might have missed something but wasn't the big story that Dario refused the Department of War's demand to use Anthropic's models for such purposes?

BeetleB 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

No. He refused the use against US citizens domestically. He had already agreed for military use against others - this is well reported.

mrandish 39 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Anthropic's ToS restricts the DoW from using their models for 1. Fully autonomous weapons systems, and 2. Mass domestic surveillance. There is no carve-out regarding who the autonomous weapons systems would be used against.

SamDc73 24 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

But he had business agreements with companies that are doing that (Palantir).

nmfisher 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

He was directly asked in a Bloomberg interview whether Claude was used in the bombing of the girl’s school in Iran, and his answer was “We don’t know”.

His redline was autonomous weapons, not the death of 100 innocent girls.

sudosysgen 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

No, he refused the DoW demand to use Anthropic models without limits. But Anthropic still agreed to military usage of their models, including for strike planning.

srj an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The bombing of the school was horrible, but it was a mistake. I could see essentially the opposite argument: Anthropic should be more involved as to prevent mistakes in the future with better technology. Imagine Claude asking the decision makers at CENTCOM "this looks like a school, are you sure you want this added as a target?"

Cookingboy 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Yeah Dario is just flat out disgusting in term of how shamelessly hypocritical he is.

Do people actually believe that he gives a shit about the well being of the Chinese people? If the U.S. starts a war with China start bombing Chinese cities Dario would absolutely jump onboard supporting it. He'd probably make Claude to add DeepSeek and Moonshot HQ to the targeting list lmao.

He is super pro-Israel as well, and never once has he brought up the risk of the Israeli government using AI to control and repress people in other countries.

He is also 100% onboard with working with Palantir, who has the explicit goal of using AI for population control and repression and building out a surveillance state.

Meanwhile the world's most repressive government is North Korea, and obviously they don't even need AI to achieve that.

If you talk to people in China they'd laugh their ass off at Dario's notion that somehow they are all getting oppressed by DeepSeek or Kimi.

kyllo 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Every accusation is a confession!

gr_norm 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The emptiness of AI companies' waxing poetic about the future of humankind is laid bare by simply looking at what they actually do, and who they do business with. Actions speak louder than words, and they've driven the worth of their words into the dirt many times over.

alex1138 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Please don't just copy paste existing comments

dan_gee 5 hours ago | parent [-]

I thought the comment was a positive contribution.

senordevnyc 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Whatever else it might be, it’s not positive.

alex1138 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I just mean they verbatim copied it from another comment they wrote in this thread

But it's quite possible I'm being too anal

dan_gee 4 hours ago | parent [-]

I didn't see that other comment and I appreciated the presence of the comment in question.

lenerdenator 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> Meanwhile the world's most repressive government is North Korea, and obviously they don't even need AI to achieve that.

The country that exists solely because of China? That North Korea?

I mean I get your point, all of these guys are elitist authoritarians who will do anything for a buck, but I wouldn't bring up the DPRK in this discussion.

redwood 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

You act as if anyone was happy to hit an elementary school. I'm sure everyone involved feels it was a terrible tragedy

davkan 3 hours ago | parent [-]

You give too much credit. Many think of it as an acceptable cost of waging war, not something to waste regret on. Some few think of it as a positive (they chant death to America over there).

thinkingtoilet 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I like how he cited the current Trump administration in section about stifling decent.