| ▲ | Kimi K3 Now Available via Telnyx Inference API(telnyx.com) | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| 84 points by fionaattelnyx 11 hours ago | 36 comments | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Moonshot AI released open weights for Kimi K3 today and it's live on Telnyx Inference. The architecture and Moonshot's own benchmarks are in their technical blog. This post is about running it on Telnyx. What we are adding: K3 is now available via the Telnyx Inference API, hosted on GPUs that we own and operate. This matters due to the size of this model. A 2.8T model needs dedicated infra to serve well. Because we own and operate the GPUs, we can contorl throughput. with no inter-provider hops and no cloud tenant, latency is minimized. We have GPUs in each of the US, EU, APAC, and MENA. Inference runs in the region you pick, with zero data retention. We do not store prompts or completions after the response returns. Because we own the infra, the per-token price reflects the cost of running the model, not the cost of renting someone else's plus their margin. We have not benchmarked K3 ourselves yet. Moonshot's own numbers and early third-party evaluations put it at frontier level for coding and agentic work, trailing only Claude Fable 5 and GPT 5.6 Sol on aggregate. Full breakdown in their blog. Pricing on Telnyx: $2.70/1M input tokens, $13.50/1M output tokens, $0.27/1M cached input tokens. Prompt caching enabled by default. Served via an OpenAI-compatible endpoint so you can test easily. Model ID: [MODEL_ID] API: https://api.telnyx.com/v2/ai/chat/completions Docs: https://developers.telnyx.com/docs/inference Technical blog (Moonshot): https://www.kimi.com/blog/kimi-k3 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | zius 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
In my first interaction ("hi there kimi k3!"), Kimi K3 identified twice out of three times as Claude: > Hi there! Quick note — I'm actually Claude, made by Anthropic, not Kimi. But no worries! and > Just a quick heads-up — I'm Claude, made by Anthropic, not Kimi! Kimi is a different AI assistant (made by Moonshot AI), so it looks like there might be a little mix-up. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | Mossy9 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Also available from Nebius, via Cortecs: https://cortecs.ai/detailedServerlessView/kimi-k3 €2.693/M input €13.464/M output Surprisingly, cache is not mentioned Upd: Tensorix joined the fray, with the same prices, with cache at €0.673/M read | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | theredsix 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
10% cheaper than official! Let the inference pricing wars begin! | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | madhu_ghalame 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Consider publishing latency, throughput, and cost metrics under different workloads to help teams make informed decisions. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | bedros 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
any of these providers are HIPAA compliant? | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | maelito an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Where is it hosted ? | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | smallerize 10 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Very cool. What are your throughput and latency like? | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | rvz 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Jevon's paradox depends on how cheap the tokens get as the price of tokens get driven to zero as intelligence gets better and cheaper. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | jakswa 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
what quantization? FP4? | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | TZubiri 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
I think telnyx is a good product, with the only stain to its name being the supply chain attack on their python library. But I don't feel like providing inference is a professional move, it feels like out of scope for a telephony IaaS company. Feels like a FOMO moment where a reputation of years is crashed in a couple of weekends of being drawn into a fad. And the fact that it's a chinese model doesn't quite help? I guess it's on brand with the 'cheap' pay as you go brand telnyx might already be associated to. But more so it reads like Telnyx is trying to 'jump' into the trend of the 'open weights' discussion to compete with closed source incumbents. But we are at the tail end of the boom, anti ai sentiment is ever growing, customers now despise AI, especially in support channels, which is presumably the hook that Telnyx would have into 'AI'(LLMs). At this stage any company or individual that tries to join into the buzzword fueled cycle will pay the full fixed cost reputational price, but only reap the leftover hay from when the sun shone. AI(LLM) on support channels is essentially a decapitalization of a company/brand, the company has a reputation that customers value, and might be worth good money in the market, and by implementing AI (LLMs) on support, a lot of costs can be cut, while the brand loses value, not sustainable. And by Telnyx (or any B2B company)asking their clients to participate in this decapitalization move, they essentially gamble their reputation as well, albeit with better odds as shovel sellers. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | buffer_overlord 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
That’s huge | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | LoganDark 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Telnyx was cool until they started demanding KYC. I would use them for burner phone numbers until they started saying they needed my government ID. Fuck that. OVH same thing. Tried to buy a VPS from them some years back and they said no VPS unless I provided ID. Would not refund me. Tried to dispute but my bank just gave me a credit instead. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | teravor 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
is not compatible with
since you asserted something false and bizarre, how about telling us what is your markup? | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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