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finger 19 hours ago

Am I misunderstanding something, or isn’t this a non-issue, as people shared those links publicly for google to find them?

metalcrow 18 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Not quite. People shared these links but there was no indication that the links were accessable without the url. Google docs has a similar system where you can make a link to your doc and only people with that link can see it. But in this case the convo was made publicly findable just by making the link

nom 17 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

It's up to them to tell Google to not index those pages, either via <meta> or X-Robots-Tag http header. Once accidentally indexed they have to tell Google via search console to reindex them to actually get it out of the index.

Somehow this keeps happening, followed by a rediscovery of this ancient old knowledge.

ButlerianJihad 17 hours ago | parent [-]

While you're absolutely right, the pronoun "they" is unnecessarily load-bearing here. Most people who are sharing links have no control over the HTML code or HTTP headers, nor are they aware of the Google Search Console.

And you're talking about relieving a symptom on a well-behaved and well-documented public service. Getting indexed by Google indicates that a link has already been crawled, indexed, and scraped by a lot of services, most of which cannot be seen or controlled by ordinary mortals.

nom 8 hours ago | parent [-]

The operator of the links has to do this. Not the person sharing the link. It's the job of the companies to make sure their pages don't get publicly indexed. It's basic web dev stuff that has worked like that for decades now.

ButlerianJihad 7 hours ago | parent [-]

"The operator of the links"? Not the person sharing the link? The pages of the companies?

What do you think I just explained?

Yes, Google Docs (and Sheets and Drive and Photos) can share via Google users (secure, granular) or "Public Link". The reason that you don't see results for these services in Google Search is because Google de-indexes them automatically if they are found by their crawler!

Everyone else crawling the web and social media? They can also find Public Links shared by Google users, or MS 365 users, or Dropbox or whatever.

And it's a feature, not a bug. Public links are public. When Claude or Gemini or Grok provide you a public link, it's public. The URL is like a "password" in that its UUID will work for anyone who clicks on it. That's simply the nature of public links.

If you wanna share securely then you get an Enterprise-class service, or you tell your LLM to generate a Word doc file, you stash it in your secure cloud storage, and you grant access to other authenticated users, and you don't ever create a public link.