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Judge Rejects Google's Attempt to DMCA Its Way Out of Being Scraped(techdirt.com)
103 points by cdrnsf 2 hours ago | 17 comments
binarymax an hour ago | parent | next [-]

I'd be more OK with this if Google had a good API for their search results. But they've deprecated it, and now there is no alternative. So I'll continue to use 3rd parties that scrape Google results, until they change their mind.

mark_l_watson 20 minutes ago | parent [-]

I agree, then need to bring back Nelson Minar’s old search API, or something like it.

Google does supply search grounding with Gemini API calls, and that is handy, but not general enough.

jonatron an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It's quite important that SERPs are scrapeable, because they keep advertising scams like ETA/ESTA sites: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-56886957

thisislife2 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I am somewhat confused - does this mean we can all now legally scrape Google search results?

rgrieselhuber 41 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Always has been

lazide 29 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

Legally and ‘they won’t do everything they can to stop you’ are not the same thing of course.

beloch 18 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This ruling might feel good viscerally, but it also reinforces Googles own scraping as perfectly legal. At its inception, Google probably viewed this lawsuit as win-win. Either they successfully sue a competitor into oblivion or establish a precedent that will protect themselves in the future. Google lost, but they still won.

echelon 12 minutes ago | parent [-]

Google has no moat anymore.

- Google search is on the way out. I don't know any of my peers who use it anymore.

- Coding models make doing extreme depth of work possible.

- Hoards of unemployed engineers now have access to 10x coding utilities and are looking for things to do. They will start clawing away at Google products.

- Just the other day, someone cloned Google Gsuite and it looked awesome

- Drive and Search will also be fungible products

- I'm itching at the chance to build my own phone operating system, and there must be thousands of others who want to do the same.

- Chrome can probably be replaced (Firefox gained a whole percentage point last month)

I don't think Google is safe anymore.

Two caveats that I'll give them:

- YouTube still has network effects and probably can't be dislodged

- Google cloud isn't going anywhere

BeetleB 5 minutes ago | parent [-]

> Google search is on the way out. I don't know any of my peers who use it anymore.

What do they use?

Of all my tech friends, colleagues, I'm the only one who uses Kagi. Another person uses searx. Everyone else uses Google.

Of my non-tech friends and colleagues, everyone uses Google.

worik a minute ago | parent [-]

> Of my non-tech friends and colleagues, everyone uses Google.

Me, almost, too.

I have some friends using duckduckgo - not many and only until Google is the default again...

xbar an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Hypocrisy-rich.

super256 44 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

If only GPT wouldn't refuse my requests to write a crawler for $site. :(

paul7986 27 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

What about them taking content for their AI summaries? Have they created a system that gets content owners and creators paid in this regard yet?

guardiangod an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

“You are trying to kidnap what I have rightfully stolen, and I think it quite ungentlemanly."

throwaway87543 37 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Google crawling respects robots.txt and doesn't break capcha. It is easy to tell Google to piss off. SerpAPI fully relies on end-user proxies distributed like malware (in LG tv apps for instance), it has no other way it could function because it exclusively ingests data from sources that tell it to stop. If you wanted to scrape a bot friendly site, you wouldn't need SerpApi

Varelion an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

This sums up every single bit of AI "progress" since 2022.

ChrisArchitect an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Source:

Google vs. SerpApi: The Court Granted Our Motion to Dismiss

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48995411