What would it take to get an American open model to compete with this?

embedding-shape 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Latest "big" release from any of the bigger American lab must have been GPT-OSS-120b I think? Released ~summer 2025, so pretty much one years ago. Doesn't seem like it'll happen by itself, so something either forcing their hand figuratively, or something forcing their hand literally.

Personally I was wishing/hoping for one of the recent Gemma releases to be in the ~100B class at least, but sadly Google is keeping that all for themselves.

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Stagnant 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

NVIDIA-Nemotron-3-Ultra-550B-A55B was released in June 4th 2026 and I think it was the largest open US model until thinking machines' Inkling (975B) was released a couple of weeks ago.

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whimsicalism 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

the longer i read this comment the wronger it gets

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embedding-shape 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Don't make me add more of my thoughts to the comment, I can still edit it.

Deeply fun "care about improving people's lives" quote on your user page :p

	▲	whimsicalism 4 hours ago \| parent [-]
		how is 2025 two years ago? GPT-120b is not even close to the biggest recent American release, etc. etc.

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layer8 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

August 2025.

	▲	embedding-shape 5 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Bah, of course, thanks :)

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lossolo 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Yeah, besides that, the only big other open source US model that was worth looking at was Inkling (975B params), Jul 15, 2026.

https://thinkingmachines.ai/news/introducing-inkling/

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segmondy 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

if it's to be believed, it's so easy. you distill it, and you have a copy in 2 weeks, isn't that what China is doing? so 2 weeks from now, we should have one.

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RazorBucksICO 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Inkling is in the ballpark

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boomskats 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

An act of G̶o̶d̶ Congress?

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0x000xca0xfe 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

A rogue employee with a USB stick.

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chrsw 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Something beyond my imagination