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1-6 a day ago

The virtue signaling is too much on this article. It could have been a well-written piece, but they had to make it about moral grandstanding.

layer8 a day ago | parent | next [-]

“Virtue signaling” is when you don’t take meaningful action. The article author went out of their way to take meaningful action.

woopwoop a day ago | parent [-]

I'm like the Japanese soldier who kept fighting into the 1970s on this, but actually signalling is about taking costly action. When people call something virtue signalling what they usually mean is that it's cheap talk, but this is wrong. The whole point of signalling is that it's costly. A more correct application of virtue signalling would be something like those people who contort their lives to genuinely try to produce zero garbage. This is a truly costly action, but it is signalling in the sense that it is more about showing that one cares by being effortful than actually doing something effectual.

gosub100 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> The whole point of signalling is that it's costly

No, it costs nothing to change your twitter icon to the Ukraine flag or make a video about some moral cause, or change your language due to the next political language policing. None of those things are costly.

dpark a day ago | parent | prev [-]

> When people call something virtue signalling what they usually mean is that it's cheap talk, but this is wrong. The whole point of signalling is that it's costly.

What? Signaling is not costly. It’s literally a display, a signal.

directevolve 21 hours ago | parent [-]

Cost makes signals credible.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signalling_(economics)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Costly_signaling_theory_in_evo...

dpark 20 hours ago | parent [-]

This is getting way into the weeds but the fact that costly signals are more trustworthy doesn’t mean all signals are costly.

An “in this house we believe” sign is signaling but if you live in a liberal neighborhood it’s extremely low cost by all measures.

vintagedave a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Being ethical is the point.

golly_ned a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Any case where someone takes a moral position is now called "virtue signaling" and "grandstanding."

gtowey 20 hours ago | parent [-]

I suppose if you work in the Soylent Green factory it's easier to demonize those who speak out against it than to consider upending your own station.

vovavili 21 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Going out of your way to quit a job most people in tech dream of after months of serious calls to action is not mere signalling.

superxpro12 18 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Youre right. virtue signalling against double-taps with AGM's on fishing boats, or using ICE to kill americans is a bad stance to take. We should have considered the pro-warcrime pro-killing-american stances first...

gosub100 3 hours ago | parent [-]

If you're only signalling meanwhile paying taxes, you are actively supporting it. Same with the genocide in Gaza.