Many countries now assume you have a phone. For example getting UK visa requires a smartphone. I don't think going without a phone is feasible nowadays.

Another question is if going with a burner phone that has just sim card and bank card, sufficient. But then you need appleid/google account on the device, and this again links back to your phone number, and it's not easy in practice to have proper clean device.

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iamnothere 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

You can simply use an Apple account for your primary device and a Google account for your burner (or vice versa). Or set up a secondary Apple or Google account. Or use a device/OS that doesn’t require one of these accounts!

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leni536 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> UK visa requires a smartphone

I don't think this is accurate.

	▲	peter_stokes 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		she's wrong. i did it on the browser on my desktop. the ui definitely doesn't make it easy to find though.

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eru 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Well, assume your phone number is public knowledge.

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inigyou 5 hours ago | parent [-]

You can get more than one.

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eru 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Sure. Assume the one that's attached to your payment is public.

	▲	inigyou 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Threat modelling. France is unlikely to tell USA if two numbers are owned by the same person without a good reason.