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amelius 7 hours ago

> Without training cost you can infer only the marginal cost of serving this kind of models.

Which is by far the most interesting number of the two.

> Moreover, you don't know the actual size of closed models (what if Fable is a 10T model? What if it's 1T?)

If you get close in output quality, then does that matter?

embedding-shape 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> If you get close in output quality, then does that matter?

When you're trying to estimate/infer the costs of serving the tokens and even include the cost of training the weights in order to output tokens then yeah, why wouldn't that matter?

jvuygbbkuurx 6 hours ago | parent [-]

That only matters if you are an investor not if you are a consumer.

embedding-shape 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Well, or if you're participating in a discussion on HN where the sub-topic happens to be "if labs are subsidising tokens on API pricing" and literally the cost of serving the tokens is relevant to the sub-topic people are trying to discuss...

solenoid0937 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Consumers want better models too, of course it matters

vb-8448 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> Which is by far the most interesting number of the two.

Only if you don't have to continuously train new models, and you are not at a runway risk.