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throwuxiytayq 2 days ago

Disgusting. I’ve never had to let anyone touch my phone in my entire life in any country I’ve visited.

Is there a list of countries that does this? At this point it’s obvious I won’t ever be traveling to the US, but I’m curious if genuinely authoritarian countries like China are actually less of a police state at the border than the USA.

ytoawwhra92 a day ago | parent | next [-]

I think almost all countries do this if your name is on a list (as this person's is). It's the nature of the lists and what gets your name added to them that varies from country to country.

petterroea a day ago | parent [-]

Visiting another country is a privilege, not a right.

joeblubaugh a day ago | parent | next [-]

This is a US citizen, so that’s a moot point

mdp2021 a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

That, whatever it means, cannot mean losses of personal rights.

petterroea a day ago | parent | next [-]

It means you aren't entitled to visit a foreign country. You aren't entitled to them letting you in.

Of course in a perfect world we all trust each other and have open borders, but that's a privilege we have to work for. I'm European and enjoy the open borders, but also am well aware that such a situation is not a given.

Cannot mean loss of personal rights, sure. Showing up at a border and being required to give up personal rights isn't ok.

But many people in this thread are writing as if they actually believe they have a right to go anywhere, and that simply isn't the case. It's the kind of thing you need live in a strong passport country to believe.

lazide a day ago | parent | prev [-]

Most countries disagree?

mdp2021 21 hours ago | parent [-]

("Most", is to be verified.)

These times will not be remembered as a pinnacle in the stages of Civilization. On the contrary, immensely barbaric and dark ages.

lazide 20 hours ago | parent [-]

Sure buddy, and WW1/2 were walks in the park.

mdp2021 12 hours ago | parent [-]

And why would pointing to what may seem to be indicated as times of violence attack the idea of these current being times of ignorance (and after all that was done to provide remedies against ignorance).

lazide 9 hours ago | parent [-]

Your statements appear to be notably myopic.

aa-jv a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Rights are universal, whether a state cares about them or not.

millzlane a day ago | parent [-]

Some might even say these are natural rights.

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rmarquis a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I've been to China recently. No phone search whatsoever. Their Internet is behind the famous Great Firewall though, but there is no issue using a (foreigner-only) unlocked sim or e-sim to access the rest of the Internet.

thenthenthen a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I travelled to the US three times and once had my devices checked. Travelled to China more than 50 times, never had anything checked.

crimsdings a day ago | parent [-]

That's because they already checked in advance :)

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artisinal a day ago | parent | prev [-]

UK passed a law for this recently. Germany has been doing it for a while.