| ▲ | deejaaymac 14 hours ago | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
>Lying to a fed They asked for the pin, maybe they should have said "not the duress pin" >Destroying evidence How did they know there was any evidence on there? >it exists for when compromising the device could get people the owner cares about killed or disappeared and the owner considers their own liability, disappearance, or death a preferable outcome. No, the duress pin is there for when I'm under duress and being forced to unlock my device against my will >It is an extreme solution for extreme scenarios Wiping a device I own is extreme? | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | lelanthran 10 hours ago | parent | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
> >Lying to a fed > They asked for the pin, maybe they should have said "not the duress pin" The law doesn't work like that. Unless you're provably at the developmental level of a 5 year old, the court knows you know what was required, and also knows what you intended when you gave the duress pin. The justice system famously never plays "simon says"... | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | sfRattan 14 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
> They asked for the pin, maybe they should have said "not the duress pin" This is a Mickey Mouse distinction no court will take seriously. > Wiping a device I own is extreme? When the consequences are potential years in prison for lying to the US government or, in another country, torture or death in prison for obstructing an authoritarian government, then yes... Extreme. All I'm saying is to decide to use a duress PIN at any national border or in any foreign country soberly, with knowledge of the potential or likely consequences. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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