What happens one day when there is a significant outage of Claude or Codex and reliance on these tools as SaaS services is so great that it start to impact productivity and work? Will we just pack up our tools and go home?

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vidarh an hour ago | parent | next [-]

If both of them are down at the same time, I would switch to my Kimi or GLM subscription and keep working. If they fail too, I switch to any number of providers via OpenRouter.

While there is some lock-in for the hardest tasks, for most of what people do LLMs are rapidly becoming a commodity.

In fact, right this minute I have Opus benchmarking Kimi alongside itself to determine which workflows we'll switch to using Kimi by default and Opus as the fallback instead of vice versa. It has already conceded Kimi does better on several tasks.

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ulimn an hour ago | parent | next [-]

To me it doesn't sound so "economically convenient" to pay extra usage to alternative providers while someone pays 20/100/200 dollars for their service.

	▲	vidarh 42 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		The subs for those alternative providers have similar tiering but more generous token allocations than Anthropic and OpenAI, and deliver good enough quality to be worth it. If I needed to fall back on OpenRouter, it'd be paid per token, of course, but that'd take 4 major providers being down, in which case I suspect I'll have more critical things to worry about. As it is, I use more than I could with a single $200 Claude Max subscription anyway, so I distribute my tasks across multiple providers. Even without that it's cheap insurance given the cost of lost time.

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rokkamokka an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

You... wouldn't just code yourself if they were down?

	▲	danielbln 25 minutes ago \| parent \| next [-]
		If my laptop breaks I'm not going back to pen and paper, I'm buying a new/different laptop.
	▲	vidarh 39 minutes ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		No more than when they are up, no. Why would I? I can produce far more by having tasks running in the background while I do other work.

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sajithdilshan 39 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

What would you do if there is a significant outage in AWS or GCP or Github or JIRA or any other service you use at work? same goes for AI tools as well.

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Eddy_Viscosity2 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Those are your tools and if the AI companies have their way, they will be your only tools. Complete dependence on AI is the goal here.

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senko an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

You mean like GitHub?

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jdthedisciple 39 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

easy, we will switch to OpenRouter et al.