to be fair, at any large scale you need infra people.

The problem is that companies tend to exaggerate their own scale and think they need k8s and dedicated infra people when they could get by with a handful of beefy VMs or dedicated servers.

	▲	honkycat 11 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		Or you could use hosted k8s and be future proof. I would take a kube cluster over a bunch of VMs I have to hand wire: wire releasing to, managing processes, restarting crashed processes, log aggregation, load balancing, networking, secret injection, cert management, DNS management, monitoring, etc... Any day of the week. You just don't know what you're talking about, sorry. Kube is really easy now.