Not even on the same level, dude. Not even close.

He has billions of dollars and still can’t help but stoop to pathetic immaturity.

Lmao imagine defending this hahahaha

How many people have you heard being told to "Fuck off" or "fuck you" or "Shove it up your ass?"

Hundreds? Thousands?

How many people have you heard being called a literal pedophile? Three?

Get a grip lmao

What's authentic/"not phony" about literally making shit up about another person?

I'm genuinely confused so please explain step by step.

Do you think everyone around you is just brimming with unevidenced allegations of pedophilia to fling around at strangers, and finally we have the One True Authentic™ to just bravely say the big words out loud?

False accusations and lies are evil. It's not a debatable statement. Trying to spin it into a positive is not going to work.

Wild people are still defending and downplaying the "weird gesture." Some people just can't be convinced, even with their own eyeballs.

If anyone doesn't think what Musk did on stage was an offensive Nazi salute, do this: Watch it over and over, memorize the exact configuration and motion of the hand and arm, the speed of the thrust forward. Practice it in front of a mirror so it looks exactly like what Musk did. Then go into work and do it in front of your manger. Or in front of an older family member. See what they say.

And responding to the backlash by posting Nazi-related puns seems like a bad way of clearing your name or trying to distance yourself from the accusation.

He's done "I give my heart to you" on video, too, and it looks nothing like the nazi salute that he clearly did at the inauguration, twice, in celebration of the victory of far-right populist politics in the USA.

The rhetorical parallels between Musk, his affiliates, and the nazis should be clear to anyone with remedial knowledge of history, let alone someone who calls themselves a wonk: scapegoating racial outgroups isn't a subtle strategy and Musk's pursuit of the strategy is not subtle.

WW2 is the end of nazi politics, not the beginning. In the unlikely case that you missed the parallels in good faith, I recommend the Richard Evans books to learn about the beginning and middle of the nazi movement.

> If he meant it to be a nazi salute, why did he do it in conjunction with saying "I give my heart to you"?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plausible_deniability

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Schrodingers...

Here's what Musk actually does when he intends that gesture: https://www.reddit.com/r/centrist/comments/1i8ajx0/video_of_...

And here's what this one looked like: https://www.reddit.com/r/gifs/comments/1i6par1/elon_musk_vs_...

Go on - would you give the latter link's "my heart goes out to you" gesture publicly at, say, work, or outside a synagogue?

I can: thinking that a far-right industrialist at a far-right victory celebration making a far-right hand gesture, with perfect form, in duplicate, didn't mean it.

What about trying really, really hard to believe that a guy with a Nazi tattoo on his chest didn't know it was a Nazi tattoo?

Such highly-public but deniable signals of support are actually a very, very common tactic of extremist movements.

But at the end of the day you know what you saw. Reflects very poorly.

If you image search "hitler salute" you get 30 examples of Hitler saluting crowds. This argument is complete trash.

… says a post from a 25min old bot account?

Snark aside, I’m curious: what about the comment you replied to is a “Reddit lie?” Pretty much everything act mentioned is well documented. Do you disagree with the assumptions made about motivations for the acts?

My eyes don't lie.