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why_at an hour ago

I think you are conflating skepticism about AI companies' motives with skepticism about their capabilities.

Even if OpenAI is being 100% honest in their reporting on this it's still good marketing for them. The fact that this outcome is good for their business and stock price makes me suspicious about how much this was a complete accident vs an "accident" that they allowed to happen by setting up the right environment for it. The company that was hacked is also an AI company, so they also have every reason to boost AI's presence in society's collective mind.

There is a conversation to be had about the possible dangers of AI, but skepticism is warranted when the companies making money off of it are the ones pushing the stories.

>a Cyberdyne Systems T-800 armed with a shotgun breaking down their front door.

For comparison, we've had the technology to make killer robots which automatically aim and shoot at human beings for 10+ years now, long before LLMs got big. But Boston Dynamics or whatever did not manufacture hype to anywhere near the same degree as AI companies are doing.

kalkin 36 minutes ago | parent [-]

> this outcome is good for their business and stock price

You state this as fact--how do you know it? OpenAI isn't publicly traded. On Hiive OpenAI is marginally down in July: https://www.hiive.com/securities/openai-stock

why_at 10 minutes ago | parent [-]

Well if you're looking for some kind of statistical analysis of OpenAI's press releases vs their valuation then I don't have anything like that. I also don't have this kind of evidence that running ads during the Superbowl is good for their business, but it just seems kind of obvious that touting their product's capabilities is something that they want to do.

Conversely if both companies involved thought this would be bad for the AI industry, they would be perfectly capable of keeping it just between themselves and not putting out press releases about it.

Do you disagree that this is good PR for them? If so I'm curious why.

kalkin a minute ago | parent [-]

Let's start by noting you made a factual claim that you apparently had no backing for whatsoever. I'd recommend against doing that.

> they would be perfectly capable of keeping it just between themselves and not putting out press releases about it.

In some jurisdictions there are legal requirements about disclosing cybersecurity incidents, and it's a well-established best practice even where there aren't. Beyond that, HuggingFace appears to have put out a press release about this before they knew this was a rogue OpenAI model: https://huggingface.co/blog/security-incident-july-2026

Of course, if it's all a big conspiracy, perhaps they were just not saying what they knew in order to help OpenAI's marketing later. Or it never happened at all, or whatever.

I do disagree that this is good PR, but I don't see the point in having that argument here--I just want to correct straightforward misinformation.