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adityaathalye 6 hours ago

Hilariously (darkly), during the pandemic, the very same reason is why the very same administrators were hell-bent on forcing Bluetooth-always-on contact tracing on the whole country's smartphone-carrying population.

(edit: viz. that forcible peer-to-peer bluetooth networking works. One man's unrestricted mass-surveillance is another person's "terrorist activity". Oh how the turntables turn and turn.)

KitN 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

But that did save lives; I was able to know my family had Covid before the symptoms showed up. Happened with a lot of other people too.

aeternum 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Indeed, and it would have saved far more lives if leveraged the app to have hazmat crews come in a forcibly carry the infected to quarantine zones.

cutterl6 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I doubt it, unless their hazmat suits are bullet-proof.

aeternum 30 minutes ago | parent [-]

Agreed, and I'm happy to live in a country where this is likely true. The only thing more deadly than pandemics are governments that gained sufficient power to round up their citizens systematically in the name of the public good.

markdown 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Sadly that wasn't possible in the US political climate and maybe a million people lost their lives as a result.

tecoholic 2 hours ago | parent [-]

The president was talking about injecting bleach, people were talking about old people dying as taking one for the future generation and the lack of Bluetooth contact tracing was what caused the deaths? Haven’t seen a shoehorn this bendy in a while. Phew.

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opem 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

If they had administered properly people wouldn't have been to the streets and spread the virus in the first place!

mannanj 23 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Was your short term safety at the expense of long term safety? (assuming rights erosion and government failures ultimately harms safety long-term).

t0bia_s 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

We survived without it. Happened to a lot of others too.

npunt 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Fwiw what you are describing is literally survivorship bias.

giantg2 an hour ago | parent | next [-]

We'd have to see the data to say wether it was true or bias. Perhaps comparing similar nations where one had Bluetooth contact tracing and the other didn't. I'm skeptical that it made much difference either way compared to the other factors.

zakki an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I don't think it is a survivorship bias if most people survive from COVID19.

stinkbeetle 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Yes, similarly the other side of people who survived authoritarian governments.

felooboolooomba 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Was that 30 second bluetooth beacon ever switched off again?