| ▲ | datakan 4 hours ago |
| > Claude Opus 5 is not more capable overall than our most capable general-access model, Claude Fable 5 Ok then so what's the point? |
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| ▲ | vidarh 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| Fable is twice the price. |
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| ▲ | varispeed 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | If Fable gets correct answer quicker, then you might pay less than doing back and forth with Opus, plus you lose more of your own time. I see no reason for using less able models in my workflows. There is this saying, penny wise and pound foolish | | |
| ▲ | SubiculumCode 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | same as it ever was. It seems your argument implies a belief that you should always use the best model. Others think that not all tasks require the absolute most powerful, expensive, model. | |
| ▲ | sambaumann 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | The CursorBench plot, for example, shows that fable does have slightly better performance, but Opus is pretty close, and is less expensive per task | |
| ▲ | stuartjohnson12 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | fable on longer coding tasks with fable subagents will easily chew through hundreds of dollars in a single run. | | | |
| ▲ | 8note 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | less expensive per task might also mean less of your own time |
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| ▲ | albert_e 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Fable 5 is NOT included in Claude Pro subscription |
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| ▲ | tamimio 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Aren’t they planning to remove it even from max and keep it only credit based? OpenAI will be happy if that would happen |
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| ▲ | javawizard 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Really? It's better than Opus 4.8, that's the point. When they release new versions of Sonnet, no-one expects them to be better than Opus. |
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| ▲ | serf 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| it's nice to know how to work the thing that fable fails down to when it dislikes your prompt. |
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| ▲ | Infinity315 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| This is useful to me since I delegate most coding tasks to Opus and use Fable for planning. |
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| ▲ | afavour 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| The cost? |
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| ▲ | cmrdporcupine 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| To have an answer to "Sol" GPT 5.6 which is far more cost effective and available than Fable. |
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| ▲ | occz 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Pricing, presumably |
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| ▲ | viccis 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| This is confusing to me because in their blogpost they show model benchmarks and it spanks Fable pretty soundly in most tests. |
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| ▲ | danielbln 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Cost. |
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| ▲ | LeoPanthera 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Presumably, it’s cheaper. |
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| ▲ | simianwords 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| You are being downvoted for a fair question and others are extremely wrong and confident. The point is that Opus 5 is the best they can do without needing classifiers and absurdly broad safeguards. |
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| ▲ | pferde 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| The illusion of progress and advancement, to appease shareholders, and slightly postpone the looming bubble pop. |
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| ▲ | CaptWorld 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | Why are we still talking like ai is majorly used for increasing shareholder value only? Its coding performance is top notch and quality is increasing at a rapid pace. It wasn't even half this good a year back. It even is useful for a subset of math problems. | | |
| ▲ | zormino 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | People don't seem to be able to reconcile the fact that there is likely an overbuild and overspend on AI that may be inflating a bubble, and that AI is actually incredibly useful and getting really really good for certain tasks. Both camps are right, except for when they say the other is wrong. | | |
| ▲ | stri8ted 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | By what measure is there an overbuild? Every metric I look at, shows inference unable to satisfy current demands. |
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