What makes someone a script kiddie or not a script kiddie?

Imo this differentiation is totally pointless now. It gives everyone with access to AI the ability to use it as intended but also otherwise.

But that is true for the defensive side also.

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gerdesj 2 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Scraipt kiddie, script kiddlmie.

Needs some work!

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yjftsjthsd-h 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I'm pretty sure the difference is, by definition, whether they're just using tools other people built or they actually understand things and can do it themselves. The script kiddie can be incredibly dangerous if the tool they grabbed off the shelf works.

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mohsen1 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Do you think any programmer really understands how their program works end-to-end? At some abstraction layer, we're all clueless. There are many layers between what you type into the text editor and the actual CPU ticks that make your program work. I bet nobody fully understands the whole stack.

Now that that text editor accepts English, we're all calling each other names, etc.

	▲	NorwegianDude an hour ago \| parent \| next [-]
		While most don't, there are developers who actually do understand systems from end to end. Most developers are terrible developers, compared to the really good ones.
	▲	yjftsjthsd-h an hour ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		I didn't say that Real Hackers™ understood every single thing perfectly from editor to electrons. You've made up a strawman and then beaten it.
	▲	fragmede an hour ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Used to be, knowing a ret from a nop (90) meant something. If you can just load up a model and say "hack teh NSA.gov" while not actually knowing anything about even DNS, what are we even doing?

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zeroq 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This is exact same difference as between junior and senior engineer.

The premise now is that everyone and your mom can vibe code next unicorn during a lunch break using the latest llms, but the difference between a rookie and a seasoned programmer is that the later can navigate the model in much more efficient way, understand the code that has been written, and notice hallucinations on the spot.

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TSiege 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Completely agree. This is how I feel towards the OpenAI hacking of hugging face. Even if it was script kiddie stuff now anyone can automate that with ease. It certainly cuts both ways and people who are still ai skeptics need to wake up to that. You’re going to need these systems to defend yourself