The pearl clutching about AI is insane to me, as if code quality was perfect before 2022. We have been seeing a decline in software quality for a long time coming now. A lot of AI hatred is not even based on seeing something genuinely bad, its just prejudice for the sake of prejudice. If I could view into two parallel worlds, one where I vibe code something, release it and tell people it's vibe coded, and another where I do the same but tell no one, codebases are both the same and I still reviewed the code, had the model fix issues with code quality and bugs, and genuinely invested hours of my time to raise up, in the universe where I don't mention AI, people will likely sing praises, in the universe where I do mention AI, people will not even review or view a single line of code, they will close the tab, hop back on HN and complain that it's AI slop, without any reasonable reason.

Blind AI hatred is just insane to me and it goes against the spirit of HN, we're not supposed to just go "ITS BAD CODE" here, we are supposed to have actual engaging conversations. Too much of HN devolves into "ITS SLOP" instead of "Hey, I know you're leaning on the AI a bit, but here's what's wrong with the code: ...." which would be more constructive and fall better in line with what I've expected from HN and seen for years, until recently.

AI fatigue and AI prejudice should not be confused for one another, sure you can have both, but most people who hate AI blindly just have AI prejudice at this point.

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yunwal 2 hours ago | parent [-]

> "Hey, I know you're leaning on the AI a bit, but here's what's wrong with the code: ...."

I'm generally in agreement, but I think current corporate/productivity culture and AI is a bad mix that makes this quote/sentiment feel impossible. All of the current incentives are set up to push out as much sloppy code as possible, and AI is the perfect machine for doing that in huge quantities, to the point where reviewing all of it is impossible. It's not really AI's fault (imo). There's plenty of ways to use it to design more elegant, understandable, maintainable systems. But unfortunately that's going to take a cultural shift, and part of that cultural shift involves people pushing back against AI as it's used today.

	▲	giancarlostoro 4 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		I do agree, if someone's just going to shove what you say to an AI at what point do you ask "do we need to replace you with a shell script?" before they stop being overtly reliant on AI, that's a bridge too far for me, and I am all for letting Claude hack away at code for a while, and then review the code and refine it, a lot of the time even if its not perfect, it gets me like 80 to 90% of the way there, especially if I tell it HOW I want it written, and to consider edge cases.