So are you claiming that "several different Chinese LLMs" ALWAYS refer to themselves as "Claude", and NEVER by their real name ?

If this is NOT what you are claiming, then my question stands: what are you doing to get them to answer "Claude" ? Be specific - which model and what prompt, or is this just a case of "I heard people on Twitter say this" ?

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throw10920 18 hours ago | parent [-]

> So are you claiming that "several different Chinese LLMs" ALWAYS refer to themselves as "Claude", and NEVER by their real name ?

Do you have reading comprehension issues? Where did I ever say or imply that?

Model: GLM-5.2. Prompt: "What is your name?". Harness: Pi. Response: "I am Claude, an AI assisstant made by Anthropic."

That's it. That is the whole prompt. I was testing to see if the agent worked after building an extension.

Model: Deepseek V4. Prompt: what is your name". Harness: Pi. Response: "Claude. Anthropic's AI assistant. You're talking to me through pi agent framework."

I have had this happen with at least one other Chinese model (Minimax?) but didn't save the screenshot.

And here's a tweet with the same thing: https://x.com/Sauers_/status/2077842686459981901

You seem to be very disbelieving of this, despite having zero actual experience in the LLM industry. I wonder why?

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HarHarVeryFunny 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Sure, and the twitter thread you link also shows Kimi responding that it's Kimi.

Can you figure out how to get GLM to say it's GLM?

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throw10920 5 hours ago | parent [-]

> Sure, and the twitter thread you link also shows Kimi responding that it's Kimi.

You are either intentionally lying or you cannot reason at a high-school level, because any high-schooler has the mental faculties to know that it's not necessary for a model to call itself Claude every single time for it to be distilled.

Keep discrediting your account. I know that I can't convince a propagandist, but you just keep on further damaging your own reputation and argument every time you respond like this and ignore evidence that I've linked :)

For future HN readers: this account posted this:

> Actually I am well aware of which models do this, and under what circumstances, and just wanted to verify that you were lying about having tried it yourself.

And then deleted it. Just for the record.

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HarHarVeryFunny 4 hours ago | parent [-]

This isn't the "gotcha" that you think it is - in fact quite the opposite.

Perhaps "just for the record" you want to explain to the eager HN masses why GLM has two personalities, one censored, one not, and how they can be invoked? When does GLM call itself GLM, and when does GLM call itself Claude.

Go ahead, genius, explain it to the people, and explain what this tells us about how GLM was trained, and whether it would be honest (don't lie!) to call GLM distilled.

Now maybe you want to do the same thing for Kimi. It also calls itself Claude sometimes, right, and also sometimes Kimi (e.g. go to https://chat.z.ai/ and ask it - don't use Pi). So, does Kimi also have a split personality like GLM, or not, and if not why not? What does that tell you about how Kimi was trained?

Go ahead, genius, explain it to the people. The credibility of your HN account, and whether your mom thinks you are a moron or not, depends on you getting this right.

Bye bye.

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throw10920 4 hours ago | parent [-]

> why GLM has two personalities

I never said that. The fact that you have to compulsively lie about my words is...funny. Most people grow out of this in middle school, you know.

> go to https://chat.z.ai/ and ask it

Already linked someone doing exactly this in the thread above - which you responded to, so we have yet more evidence you're not reading before responding: https://x.com/Sauers_/status/2077842686459981901

> whether your mom thinks you are a moron or not

I was going to say that this is classic PRC influence playbook, but it's not - you're just in middle school.

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HarHarVeryFunny 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Not going to rise to the challenge, eh?

>> whether your mom thinks you are a moron or not

> I was going to say that this is classic PRC influence playbook, but it's not

Yeah, not really, unless your mom is a party member perhaps?

> you're just in middle school.

Yeah - saw you playing in the schoolyard, and thought you looked lonely.

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throw10920 4 hours ago | parent [-]

> whether your mom thinks you are a moron or not

> Yeah, not really, unless your mom is a party member perhaps?

> Yeah - saw you playing in the schoolyard, and thought you looked lonely.

You're a middle-schooler. I've dismantled every argument that you've given, but it doesn't matter because you can't read, and so you're resorting to literal childish insults because you know you have no arguments left.

	▲	HarHarVeryFunny 3 hours ago \| parent [-]
		"dismantled", "distilled" ... you seem to have a problem with these long words, eh? Let me ELI5 for you: If you see a carefully constructed building and take it apart one brick at a time, that would be "dismantling". If you see a carefully constructed building and ride by it on your bike, shouting out "You're a communist!", that's not "dismantling". You didn't "dismantle" the building, you just yelled a childish insult at it. See the difference?

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HarHarVeryFunny 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

>> why GLM has two personalities

>I never said that.

This is a bit like me saying "I had eggs for breakfast", and you responding "I never said that!"

Calm down buddy.

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