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llm_nerd 2 hours ago

And it's worth considering that obfuscation only ever worked against casuals for whom tedious was a bridge too far. Nation state actors and criminal hacker groups, on the other hand, consider the tedious entirely worth it.

phh 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Yes, obfuscation was always a matter of cost: how much money do you need to break the protection? LLM just decreased that amount by a lot.

(Yes ok, RSA4096 is technically a matter of cost, you just need an infinite amount of money)

jaggederest 6 minutes ago | parent [-]

The cool thing about cryptographic security is that it's an asymmetric amount of cost for both parties - to encode is cheap, to break is many orders of magnitude harder, unlike obfuscation where the difficulty is approximately symmetrical.

inigyou 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Pirates checked Denuvo, once considered the king of DRM.

walrus01 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> consider the tedious entirely worth it.

Entirely without LLMs, I'm imagining an office of North Korean compsci graduates doing astonishingly tedious tasks, for whom an office job on a basic Linux computer and slightly better diet and nice apartment put them in the top 1-2% of living standard in the country.