You appear to know nothing about how these models work.

Do you know where the "reasoning summary" that Fable outputs comes from? I bet you're assuming it comes from Fable. Wrong. You can find the truth on Anthropic's web site if you care to look for it. The summary deliberately comes from a smaller weaker model. You're not getting the Terrance Tao level reasoning, you're getting his daughter's summary "daddy did a lot of math", and you are claiming that from this you can train a Terrance Tao level model.

Yes, I understand that Anthropic is upset that there is competition. Perhaps they should have realized that with no moat there was going to be competition and planned accordingly.

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throw10920 a day ago | parent [-]

> You appear to know nothing about how these models work.

> Do you know where the "reasoning summary" that Fable outputs comes from? I bet you're assuming it comes from Fable. Wrong. You can find the truth on Anthropic's web site if you care to look for it. The summary deliberately comes from a smaller weaker model. You're not getting the Terrance Tao level reasoning, you're getting his daughter's summary "daddy did a lot of math", and you are claiming that from this you can train a Terrance Tao level model.

Yeah, you have no domain expertise and are making stuff up. To reiterate: the people who actually work at frontier labs know that you're factually wrong and will happily tell you. Reddit commentator syndrome yet again.

> I bet you're assuming it comes from Fable.

Nowhere did I assume or say that. That's the third or fourth time you've attributed things to me that I never said. It's extremely clear that you're not acting in good faith, because someone acting in good faith would never do that. If you continue responding, I'm going to continue debunking you, and you're just going to continue undermining your own points in the permanent HN record.

> Yes, I understand that Anthropic is upset that there is competition.

Emotional manipulation. Standard 50 Cent Party playbook.

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HarHarVeryFunny a day ago | parent [-]

Here is the tweet by Dean Ball, OpenAI's "head of strategic futures", someone who does actually work at a frontier lab, saying that Kimi 3 can not be explained by distillation.

https://x.com/deanwball/status/2078133895766114412?s=20

I'm not sure how you want to "debunk" that he said that, or twist what he said, but go ahead ...

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throw10920 18 hours ago | parent [-]

You literally did not read my comment before responding or actually respond to any of the points.

"I don't think its performance can be explained away by distillation or anything like that." even if you assume that Dean Ball (who is nontechnical and has not actually worked to train models (https://www.deanball.com/)) is honest (which he has a financial incentive to not be) - is entirely compatible with saying that Kimi was heavily distilled by Claude.

At this point, I'm just pointing out the many lies, fallacies, and failures to read at a high-school level that you're committing.

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HarHarVeryFunny 6 hours ago | parent [-]

> You literally did not read my comment before responding or actually respond to any of the points.

Are you so unaware that you believe you are making any points?

Go back and read your post - it was just a bunch of insults with zero technical content to respond to. The same emotional hysterics you've been using in the entire thread.

	▲	throw10920 5 hours ago \| parent [-]
		> it was just a bunch of insults with zero technical content to respond to Yet more lies. I made many substantial comments, and the fact that you're lying about that is you, not me. You've already lied about my own words multiple times (e.g. when you said "it would certainly be highly ironic if this summary was in fact "even more valuable" for that purpose as you are claiming!") You're either an LLM with a bad hallucination rate or just evil, and precisely zero statements that you provide have any trustworthiness to them. Keep discrediting your account. I know that I can't convince a propagandist, but you just keep on further damaging your own reputation and argument every time you respond like this and ignore evidence that I've linked :)