| ▲ | jacobgold 3 hours ago |
| > Fable-level results at 1/3 the cost using open-weight models But we get ~$2500/mo worth of Fable credits for $200/mo on Anthropic pan? I'm still confused why people (who don't have to use API billing) are chasing open weight models based on cost. |
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| ▲ | recursivegirth 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| Enterprise plans pay API costs, they're only subsidizing individual accounts and that's only because they have to compete with open-source models. When they are successful at making those illegal/inaccessible, both Anthropic and ChatGPT are going to rip the band-aid off and inference will only be sold to those that can afford it. The good ole American way. |
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| ▲ | drnick1 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | > When they are successful at making those illegal/inaccessible This would be like trying to outlaw Linux or peer-to-peer file sharing. It's technically possible to write and pass a law, but it's basically impossible to enforce it. | | |
| ▲ | switchbak 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Enough to make it a non-started at the organizations that pay their bills. Everyone else isn't big enough to matter. | | |
| ▲ | trollbridge 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Going to be an interesting world where big enterprises have to spend 100X the cost for the same value of AI as startups and small businesses. |
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| ▲ | teruakohatu 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Because that is a short term solution, it won’t be offered forever. Large organisations have to purchase credits at $/tokens. Eventually everyone else will too. |
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| ▲ | sscaryterry 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | This is what OpenAI and Anthropic are trying to make everyone believe. Most accountants will flinch at this (they already are). The $200 odd plans are already out of reach of many, many people. The attrition of customers if they were to get rid of these subscriptions plans would be untenable. | | |
| ▲ | recursivegirth 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | I think you are looking at it incorrectly. No business is buying individual accounts, because if they do, they open themselves up to considerable risk. The $200 plans are priced so that the power-users use them and then advocate about how great the product is. If you're buying a $200 plan, you're not doing it because of the price point but rather because of the amount of work it is doing for you. | | |
| ▲ | trollbridge 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Lots of businesses are buying and using these plans. Basically every small business I interact with. |
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| ▲ | combyn8tor 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| You may want to consider the incomes of developers outside the US, students, unemployed. $200/month is a lot to a lot of people. |
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| ▲ | eikenberry 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I think most people assume the subsidized plans will go away or get more limited eventually. They are basically a loss leader and a marketing cost that is very flexible and easy to change w/o directly impacting their primary customers. |
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| ▲ | dberg 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| doesnt exist for enterprise plans |
