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alukin 5 hours ago

Feels like will be shut down real quick

gogobio 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Yes, this wastes cycle. They dump your cache and deallocate the VMs so that others can use it. This will result in tokens wasted and downtime for others.

supern0va 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Can you expand on this? I can't imagine this is holding up an entire machine or materially impacting capacity. Isn't it common to have a tiered cache and to ultimately evict (or move to another tier) if there's an active inference request and no available capacity elsewhere?

Lalabadie 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Yes, however if a tool like this commoditizes a way to stay "higher" in the cache hierarchy to avoid getting dropped, then for the same total capacity, Anthropic have to become stricter about retention.

supern0va 3 hours ago | parent [-]

It's unfortunate that there isn't some better way to signal that there's a high chance that a turn is coming (ie, due to active sub-agents). If CC could send a ping saying "I don't need a turn, but please keep this cached at some tier because there will be a turn soon." that would probably help with cache efficiency. Instead, it seems like there's just the shotgun one-hour solution.

l1n 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Why? Seems fine if people want to burn more cache reads.

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agluszak 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Because it makes Anthropic earn less money

munk-a 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> Because it makes Anthropic burn more money

Fixed that for you.

cadamsdotcom 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

"Earn"?

Cache duration is arbitrary. What it actually does (if used en masse) is decrease the amount of oversubscription their infra can handle..

janderson215 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Earn is synonymous with profit, and this hurts their profits. Introducing latency can benefit much more people and actually make usage more efficient. Reducing latency can sieze up a functioning system.

Lately, I’ve been thinking about how this related to fractional banking. If you were to eliminate fractional banking introduced in the US by Hamilton, you would destroy a lot of current prosperity.

Cyberdog 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Agreed, the Thermos company's lawyers will probably fire off a terse letter once they find out.