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Laurel1234 7 hours ago

Clankers aren't people. Should we be handing out Fields medals to LateX, python and calculators?

MattCruikshank 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

We know which bots are the best at Chess. You'd care which AI is the most accurate at diagnosing your medical condition. It's not a bad thing to keep track of which automated systems are the best at certain tasks.

kylecazar 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Do humans win Fields medals for formatting and calculation?

Laurel1234 7 hours ago | parent [-]

Python does all kinds of wondrous things

tocs3 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Should we be handing out Fields medal to

I don't know, maybe. I would not put Clankers on the same level (or category / level of importance) as people but if they produce the work maybe they should get the credit.

magicalist 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> but if they produce the work maybe they should get the credit

But that's not what the Fields Medal is for.

If you're a 41 year old mathematician and do amazing groundbreaking world shifting math, you can't get a Fields Medal either.

hooloovoo_zoo 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Tool-assisted proofs typically already get a description of the tool usage. Even if one wanted to start giving authorship credit to llms, they’re too non-atomic (did it have web search, which mcp?, etc.)

tocs3 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Not trying to delving into a deep philosophical question here but...

I asked chatgpt to write a poem about my mothers dog a while back. It spit out a poem that my mother likes and keeps around. When asked, I say chatgpt wrote it. If I asked chatgpt for a proof of the Goldbach Conjecture and it spit out a verifiable proof, I think I would go ahead and give chatgpt credit. Not that I think it is likely. It would be more of some ability (like a robot end effector is able to hold an egg) and monkeys at typewriters.

Maybe not Fields Medal worthy, but worthy of some credit.

hooloovoo_zoo 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Anything morality-related is going to be subjective, but I think there are just too many practical problems with LLMs as coauthors. For me, in a scientific context 'chatgpt' is too vague, and I think it would be logically inconsistent to have LLMs as coauthors and not other forms of Monte Carlo. I also think LLMs are just too mechanical to be ascribed 'people words' (in the same way I don't consider my automated coffee machine a barista).