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pretendgeneer an hour ago

I think you're misunderstanding "codeberg is political".

Everything is political, FOSS is political, GitHub is also political.

When people say "We're not political", or "That's not political". What they're actually saying is that it's within my own politics.

tbrownaw an hour ago | parent | next [-]

No, there's a big difference between "net effects are not guaranteed to be perfectly neutral" and "I am going to intentionally put my thumb on the scale".

The position that everything is political so therefore opinions are mandatory intentionally conflates these things.

Forgeties79 37 minutes ago | parent [-]

You’re the one who seems to be conflating things - everything is political =/= opinions are mandatory.

tbrownaw 31 minutes ago | parent [-]

The comment I was replying to said

> When people say "We're not political", or "That's not political". What they're actually saying is that it's within my own politics.

That assertion is incorrect. Said incorrect assertion is derived from the conflation I called out.

causalmodels 37 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

My issue with this is not that codeberg and its members want to uphold a certain set of political beliefs. Any private organization is free to do that. It's that they haven't defined the rule that's supposed to encode those beliefs.

As written, the rule is a non-exhaustive example of "content that harms codeberg's reputation". Someone asked in the pr whether "cryptocurrency-related" is defined anywhere and it merged without an answer. The responses to wording concerns was essentially they will figure it out later. Moves like this don't fill me with confidence.

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altmanaltman an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

No I understand that. But the point I am making is saying that is much stronger than saying "our policy says we won't host crypto projects going forward". The latter is fine, any service provider can set terms as they fit within the law. But if you claim you are highly political, you must invite further questions into it.

How does Codeberg handle the diverse mix of politics within it and manage its influences? If we give the organization a character by calling it political, we create an obligation to explain further.

Overall, again I feel this is a self-own to project idealogue this hard since you flavor it in a specific way that is not inclusive.

overfeed 35 minutes ago | parent [-]

> How does Codeberg handle the diverse mix of politics within it and manage its influence

They don't have to.

> Overall, again I feel this is a self-own to project idealogue this hard since you flavor it in a specific way that is not inclusive.

D.E.I. is out right now. Fortunately, Codeberg helpfully funds Forgejo, so all the non-eligible projects can benefit from self-hosting.